Unemployment benefits take a jump

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  1. PSGator66

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    One thing that we can all agree on is that no matter what source the Dems use to pimp-out their government's accomplishments those numbers are always wrong.

    Especially the CBO and their, garbage in garbage out, method of stupidity
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    Who could have predicted if you stopped paying 800K people, it might increase unemployment?
  4. philobeddoe

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    Aren't they going to be paid by the federal government just as soon as Barry and Harry decide to act like humans?
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    So they are going to get unemployment insurance and back pay?
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    so it appears

    guvment at its best
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    An awful lot of them are not govt employees, but employees of govt contractors. And, yes, when paychecks stop, applications for unemployment benefits increase
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    Were Congress to authorize back pay, the Department of Labor would immediately send out notices to federal employees notifying them that their unemployment benefits should be returned since it would constitute an overpayment. So furloughed workers could get back pay or jobless benefits, but not both.
  9. philobeddoe

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    Well then ... it's sad that Barry and harry put these folks out of work. Hopefully, someone will kick them in the rear and get them to negotiate a solution to the 17% slowdown and debt ceiling. Oh wait ... Princely Barry thinks it's "unpatriotic" to raise the debt ceiling and finds himself in a tough place ..... of his own making.
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    they are getting a taxpayer paid vacation--they'll get full back pay and probably sue for more benefits when they get back to "work"
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    What? You think they qualify for unemployment?
  12. DaveFla

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    How how I hope not...
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    1. The unemployment situation has nothing to do with the debt ceiling. It has to do with the lack of a CR.

    2. There is a bill sitting in the House that the Republican leadership refuses to vote on that would reopen the entire government. This bill has the votes to pass.
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    1. Please see ..... "the 17% slowdown".

    2. The Senate has been given a bill that would have funded the government - court jester Harry did not acct thereon. Prince Barry has had ample opportunity to negotiate a CR with the House but refuses to do so ... largely because he has asserted that increasing the debt ceiling is "unpatriotic" and a "sing of leadership failure". Funny thing ... he wants that which he says is "unpatriotic".
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    Actually, the Senate voted on every bill that would have funded the entire government. They passed a CR after voting on an amendment to strip the Obamacare language. Both the amendment and the CR passed.

    Again, why should he negotiate with a minority in the House (there are enough votes to pass the CR in the House if they bring it up for a vote)? The House is supposed to be majority rules, but Republicans have turned it into the majority of the majority rules rather than the majority of the chamber rules.
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    oh yes lets keep on approving funding for wasteful spending.....

    LOVE IT...

    By the way the 800k workers has nothing to do with this as they will all get back pay.
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    How do you know it would pass?
  18. philobeddoe

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    So you're going to say they've voted on all bills to fund the government ...... that was partially slowed down by Barry and Harry??
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    Two ways:

    1. Direct head count. Here are two of them:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/02/the-fixs-clean-cr-whip-count/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/house-republicans-clean-cr_n_4024755.html

    The Huffington Post one comes with quotes. Even if you just count the ones who are directly on record supporting a Clean CR unambiguously, you get 17. There are 200 Democrats in the House. 200+17=217, which is the number needed to pass the bill. If a couple back out, there are about 7 more who have had aides say that they will vote for a clean CR.

    2. Boehner and the leadership haven't brought it up for a vote. This is strategically where they are weakest on this issue. If they thought it would be voted down by the House as a whole, they would do so and use that as a negotiating position (a clean CR can't pass the House, so we need to compromise). They haven't done this.
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    Same could be said for Reid in the Senate, who is as much to blame for this shutdown as Boehner...

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