UN Report shows Assad almost certainly responsible for chemical weapons

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    An estimated 500K to a million were murdered in Rhawanda and lots of those were with machetes. Are they less dead somehow?
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    America's new calling card:

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    Sticking with the subject, no there isn't a reasonable basis to claim doubt about whether Assad did it or not. There is no evidence to that affect and plenty that he did. Your pretending otherwise is disappointing, but at least ends any further need on my part to attempt to discuss it reasonably with you, since that standard no longer applies.
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    Sounds to me like most of the players blaiming on Assad, are the same ones who claimed things about Iraq.
    It also sounds rather ironic that some of the folks that don't remember how nearly the whole world and nearly all the dems thought Iraq had WMD's, voted for us to intervene look back and forget all that but the same intelligence gathers come out with this stuff and we are to believe it. I guess we can play the same card, believe it say hell yah let's go, then when we are in WWIII we will just conviently forget and throw all blame on the big O and say he and Biden are just war mongers!!!!
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    The UN inspectors were correct about Saddam's "wmd's" while the Bush administration oversold pretty good intel by exaggerating the chance that he was on the edge of developing nuclear weapons, all the while ignoring his total lack of a delivery system. Your recounting of that period is not accurate.
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    You can stop arguing it if you want to but that changes nothing. There is plenty reason to believe he did not do it and your ignoring it makes little difference.
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    The bigger thing for me though is even if he did do it it's not our fight.
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    No, there isn't. That is either a lie or statement of pure ignorance.
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    It's neither and your insults don't make it such.
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    It's a statement of fact.
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    we will agree to disagree on the bolded part. there is no doubt who did this attack and several smaller but similar attacks over the last few months. ignore facts if you wish but do not distort them

    the women and children sleeping in the impact zone were not at war with Assad's forces anymore than the people in the twin trade towers were at war with AQ. they just belong to a different religion just like the jewish population did

    the gas isn't being used as a weapon against troops in a war. it is being deployed against civilian populations as a weapon of terror and this was just the latest of string of chemical weapons attacks
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    Only in your warlike world.
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    Why do you people keep saying there is no doubt when in fact there is?
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    what would it take to erase your doubts? is that possible?
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    I really don't know. Simply put I believe there are too many people who have reason to falsify the information due to partisan issues. From the start it has not made a lot of logical sense that Assad would have ordered there use.

    Still, that is an aside for me because I am dead set against our solitary involvement. If the UN, with the agreement of other world powers, wants to do it then that's a different story.
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    who said solitary involvement? Britain, france, spain, qatar, SA, Germany, turkey....UN will not agree. Russia will veto. Do you want to cede our national interests to UN votes now??

    and Assad has been using them prior to this attack. he feels that Putin ahs his back so there are no limits to what he can do. SO far, he has been right and Putin is going to keep backing him at the UN
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    Obama was pushing for our going it alone and then when he saw public sentiment running against that idea he sent it to Congress. What I want is us to stay totally out of it but it would be much better if there was a response by the world powers. I'm not for ceding anything but this would hardly be setting a precedent with the UN.

    It's a civil war. Let them fight it out since it matters little who wins we still lose. Plus you stand the chance, if Assad is deposed, of those weapons falling into the hands of radicals and winding up on our shores.

    Are any of you who want this intervention really thinking the possible ramifications through?
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    Why do you persist in defending the in indefensible? If you are still against a response from the US, that can be a reasonable position, though I don't agree with it. It is beyond foolish, let alone reasonable, to maintain our position on whether Assad did or not. By your standard one could never act on any event because there is always some infinitismal possibility that they could be wrong.
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    You're only reading and hearing what you want to. If it is contrary to your belief Assad did it then you ignore it. Decent doubt is all we need and I still believe we have it.

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