U.S. judge orders landmark California cross taken down

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    Not really that surprising but I did find the part in bold interesting.

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    This is what happens when you appoint radical political hacks to the courts.
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    So there is no freedom of religion and Obama gets to pimp-out a Muslim that wants a Mosque the ground zero with no repercussions. And the congress still gets to opens it's sessions with a prayer, but a cross violates the separation of church and state? Too bad the cross isn't on federal land...
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    Rick, did you read what I put in bold? The Obama administration is fighting to keep it.
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    And he was appointed by the compassionate conservative. Nobody understood that the compassionate part meant cozying up to leftists.
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    Maybe he is simply interpreting the law as he sees it.
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    What will be the next challenge? Will someone eventually try and remove the grave markers from the cemetery in Normandy and other national cemeteries?


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    I'm not terribly familiar with the case above, but I would imagine that part of the complaint is that it is a giant cross on the top of a mountain visible for miles, rather than a individualized grave marker in a cemetary.
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    I used to be a private pilot in San Diego. I know pilots will certainly miss that cross on Mt. Soledad. It was a great landmark for navigation in the area.
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    I think those who want it removed just want something to bitch about but that could come from being raised in WASP household too.
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    Sees it how? According to his agenda or interpreting the constitution? "How he sees it" is really relative. What state religion is the state actually sanctioning?
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    "Grudgingly ruled" doesnt sound like he was exactly thrilled about it. I mean, you could always read his court order and see how he determined things.
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    What would you call the thing any judge does. As he "sees it" is one of of putting the way he interprets the law or his understanding of it.
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    Question - would someone be able to apply for historical landmark status to keep it from being taken down? It's not like it's been just put up. There are a few churches around here that were in danger of being torn down (then again, these were over 100 year old), so some citizens applied and received landmark status, so they can't be torn down.
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    Constitution forbids ESTABLISHMENT of religion. Does the presence of a cross ESTABLISH a religion?

    Furthermore, it states "Congress shall pass no law". Was a law passed here?

    So absurd...
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    This isnt private property, so probably not. A more likely scenario would be some private group purchasing the property and maintaining it.
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    The one that uses a cross as its symbol? Islam I think...or maybe Judaism? Oh wait, it's Hinduism - that's it for sure.
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    That not reality because there are judges that have radical political beliefs and don't interpret the constitution. They legislate from the bench according to their beliefs.
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    So tell me, what religion exactly does it symbolize? Is it the protestant religion? Fill me in because I don't claim to know.

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