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Biden's Troubles

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, May 7, 2024.

  1. philnotfil

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    It seems a non-partisan thing, and I don't see it having much impact on elections, but the SBA is always strapped for cash, and this isn't a part of their mission.
     
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  2. ETGator1

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    Yes, and Dictator Biden has solely stopped aid to Israel after congressional approval for his own political gain, an impeachable offense. However, with the two-sided justice system, I'm not holding my breath on impeach nor do I think it should happen as I didn't think it should have been a quicky precedence setting failed attempt to convict Trump using impeachment as a political tool, a gross abuse of power by the democrats.

    Dictator Biden has broken his promises of aid to Israel. The American people have a right to know Biden has spit in the face of Israel without so much as a discussion or notification to congress.

    JMO, Israel leaked the held-up shipments to Axios, Israel clapping back at Biden.
     
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  3. ETGator1

    ETGator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Trump was never proven to have an impeachable offense and he was not convicted in the Senate.

    The democrats turned this into an impeachable offense, not the republicans. Your Reagan precedence is no longer the precedence. What's fair for the goose should be fair for the gander, but we all know two-sided justice exists in the US.
     
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  4. mdgator05

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    The DOD is not in charge of shipping these weapons. Again, it is a private sale. In fact, it says so in the Politico report that actually figured out the specific weapons affected.

    Direct commercial sale means that it is not congressionally approved aid. It requires the administration to sign off or not. This is actually their role.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/...ls-gaza-policy-led-to-weapons-holdup-00156528

    No, an impeachable offense would be not sending the money that a bill outlines specifically until somebody does something to personally benefit you. This is not that. Sorry.

    I bet you think Axios is left-wing media (and Politico as well), don't you?

    I'm sorry that nobody treated your claims with the respect you thought they deserved. Unfortunately, when you say extremist stuff, unlike the letter opposing this by the Governors, that is what happens.
     
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    If you can show me where in the defense authorization bill it says that specifically defined aid must ship within X number of days you might have a case. Otherwise, this is nothing but hypercharged partisan idiocy.
     
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  6. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    OK. Just to be clear: Your claim about your 'sources' being banned here because they're conservative is simply not true.
     
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    Time of Original Post: 5/7/24 @ 11:17 a.m
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  8. ETGator1

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    No, I was in fact told I couldn't use Breitbart and Townhall by a mod in the past. I was last night told by a mod, lacuna/see #99 in this thread that only porn sites are banned. Is this not correct?
     
  9. archigator_96

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    Dammit GL, you beat me to it! Except I was going to add a funny gif.
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    No, you weren't.
     
  11. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    They've never been banned that I'm aware of. Actually, they've been quoted by conservatives here ever since I've been here, which is an embarrassingly long time.

    I don't know of any sites being banned. Porn sites could be, but I've never tried to post anything from there.
    I'd suggest not trying that out.
     
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  12. ETGator1

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    Dictator Biden admits to impeachable offense while confirming he has stabbed Israel in the back for his own personal political gains. Not only is Biden a tyrant and a threat to the republic, but he's also a terrorist sympathizer and a threat to the existence of Israel:

    WATCH: Lloyd Austin Confirms U.S. Withholding Arms from Israel over Rafah (breitbart.com)

    Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin confirmed Wednesday at the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense that the U.S. is withholding a shipment of weapons to Israel over concerns about its ongoing attack on Hamas in Rafah.

    Austin, while claiming that the Biden administration’s commitment to Israel’s security was “ironclad,” said that the U.S. had concerns about Israel’s potential use of large bombs in Rafah and had therefore paused a bomb shipment.

    Republican Senators were incredulous. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) asked Austin and Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whether they would have ordered the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in the Second World War. Graham noted that Israel was fighting a war for its survival against Iran and its terrorist proxies and that the U.S. not withhold weapons: “Give Israel what they need to fight the war they can’t afford to lose!”

    Dictator Biden refuses to let Israel win the war so the Israeli are going it alone. The withholding of bombs and shells has been going on for several weeks now. Dictator Biden's interview with CNN is disgusting and evil:

    Joe Biden's Insane Interview With Erin Burnett Should Be the Final Straw for American Voters – RedState

    It's cliche to call something astonishing, but it's truly mind-blowing to see a U.S. president side with a terrorist group over a multi-generational ally. Never mind that Hamas continues to attack and is still holding dozens of hostages, including some Americans. Yet, Biden has decided he doesn't care about any of that, instead choosing to prioritize his electoral prospects (and committing an impeachable offense in the process).

    Biden: If Israel Goes Into Rafah's Population Centers, I'll Halt Weapons Used 'To Deal With That Problem' -- It's 'Wrong' (breitbart.com)


    The expansion to include artillery shells goes beyond the pause in bomb shipments confirmed by the Pentagon earlier in the day and comes on the heels of the President signing a bill to increase aid to Israel.
     
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  13. philnotfil

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    Same as Reagan did back in the day.
     
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  14. ETGator1

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    Is now an impeachable offense thanks to the democrats.
     
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  15. ETGator1

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    More perspective on Dictator Biden's refusal to ship arms to Israel and his Wednesday night CNN interview:

    Biden Just Handed Hamas a Huge Win (townhall.com)

    Curtis Houck on X: "#BREAKING: Biden tells CNN that he will not only continue to pause shipments of bombs to Israel, but also hold up artillery shells because what the IDF has done and wants to do is “just wrong”.... CNN’s Erin Burnett: “I want to ask you about something happening as we sit here… https://t.co/vqxewKM7CU" / X (twitter.com)

    We will be fortunate to avoid WWIII with this wobbly Dictator in charge. Impeach Dictator Biden Now! Impeach Dictator Biden Now!

    During an interview with CNN Wednesday night, President Joe Biden reversed longstanding U.S. policy and declared he will stop precision weapons shipments to Israel should the Israeli Defense Forces head deeper into Rafah.

    Given there are approximately 8000 Hamas terrorists in Rafah, where hostages are also reportedly being held, the declaration allows Hamas to stay alive and forces Israel to lose the war -- a final stronghold for the Iranian backed terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip.

    "Biden has now said expressly that he will cut off weapons to Israel if Israel invades Rafah. Let’s be brutally clear here — Israel cannot defeat Hamas without entering Rafah, where Hamas maintains four fully functioning battalions. Biden is siding with Hamas over Israel — there’s no other way to say it," former U.S Ambassador to Israel David Friedman says. "And to those who say he is protecting the Palestinian people, I call BS. Hamas is a far greater enemy of the Palestinians than is Israel. Hamas is the cause of their suffering. Palestinians will continue to suffer until Hamas is eradicated. And, as for the hostages held by Hamas (including Americans), this betrayal of Israel makes their release much more difficult. Biden continues to fail on every tough foreign policy call. And it’s all to gain the votes of self-hating Americans."
     
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  16. rivergator

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    So you’re of the opinion that if Israel is bombing civilians, we should give them as many bombs as they want?
     
  17. dangolegators

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    It would be impeachable if Biden were withholding the arms to get dirt on his political opponent, as Trump did. As official administration policy over disagreement with how Israel is conducting the war, it's not impeachable. Hope that helps you understand it.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    It's not impeachable because the specific arms isn't what Congress approved. What Congress approved was aid, which has, as far as we know, been delivered. Even if hasn't been yet, we're not outside the 45 day window that would make Biden guilty of a crime.

    Second, Biden is being specific as to why he doesn't want to approve the offensive weapons sale to Israel. Israel is intended to use the bombs in Rafah, where Palestinian civilians were told to evacuate, and Biden doesn't want Israel to use US made weapons to kill innocent Palestinian civilians. Anyone have issue with this?

    The OP has made statements that Israel should turn Gaza into a parking lot before. So I guess he wouldn't have issues with Israel going in full force and not worrying about the Palestinian death total. But for the rest of us, I think we see a difference between Israel allow to defend herself and an offensive war where Israel kills thousands of more innocent civilians.
     
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  19. ETGator1

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    Cute, but no. Your premise is wrong. Israel is bombing Hamas who has willing civilian participants imbedded in their battalions. These civilians are extensions of the Hamas battalions who would rather die than have peace with Israel. Israel has warned civilians in Rafah to leave so it is their decision to stay and support Hamas.

    You would not have supported bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki or the Dresden fire bombings in WWII?

    BTW, not trying to cause trouble with anyone, but I sent a message to the OP of the Trump's Trouble thread asking if he would unblock me so I can see the thread. I don't recognize the name, so I'm surprised I'd be blocked. I'll let you know the response presuming there will be a response.
     
  20. ETGator1

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    Proof I said this please.