Tyler Murphy & Ian Silberman officially named BC starters

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    Dw was a great college qb. And we don't have SOS as our coach, dw was perfect for his system as was Shane,
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    Ryan Leaf was awesome in college
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    But had big talent.
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    How do u know this? He never did anything anywhere
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    Leaf had talent, he was just crazy
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    Grier is not ready. I think he will be a good one. But Tyler would have been ahead of him on the depth chart, and rightfully so.
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    Wish them all well - unless we play them. Brissett is the only one I really hated to see leave. I think we'd have won some games we lost last season with him in the lineup. Real competition forces competitors to improve. JD has no one to push him and would not have had competition from Murphy IMO. The competition would have been for #2. With Brissett, the competition would have been for starter and we'd have the best #2 in the SEC.

    From the looks of the stat's in NC State's spring game, Brissett made a good decision also. He threw for more yards than both sides of the O&B scrimmage.
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    Brissett is a guy who has "it" as a QB. Very confident and poised. Natural leader. Good pocket presence. Prototypical size. Throws a catch-able ball. While he didn't do much here, it's just a matter of time and reps before he does well - at least at the college level.

    I think Murph also could have helped us and could well have won an open competition for the starting job, but we'll never know. I don't blame him for not thinking an open competition would occur. He was easily the best QB in 2011 Spring game, then disappeared on the depth chart for two years only to be called on when injuries and transfers made him next guy up. Then looked like the best QB again (as guys like SOS and Lou Holtz noted). Then Spring practice schedule is changed to accommodate JD. Can't blame Murph for moving on.

    Regardless, both guys are gone. Wish them well but wish our guys even better.
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    UF is bowling if Brissett is on the team IMO. I dont believe competition changes Jeff that much. Brissett and Tyler made the best decisions for themselves.
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    Loved him as a Gator, really got on my nerves how he and (especially) his family acted shortly after announcing his transfer.
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    Murphy was hitting 72% of his passes before the injury to his throwing shoulder. Most years that puts you in the top five in the country. 55% after the injury to his throwing shoulder when the coaches kept playing him anyway. I don't blame him for leaving. A trooper for sticking it out, but shame on the coaches for putting him out there like that.
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    He wasn't hitting 72% when he got hurt. When his shoulder was first injured, he was at 63%, around a 125 QB rating.

    Murphy was a wonderful surprise and totally serviceable. But his biggest games were against our weakest competition. I think people sometimes lose sight of that, and then blame his poor performances later on the shoulder. I think that's a bit of a copout, honestly.
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    In his first three games, Murph did hit 72% of his passes and was averaging 9.8 ypa, with 5 TDs and 1 pick. He also ran for 135 yards at 5.6 ypc, with 2 TDs and no lost fumbles. Total 7 TDs and 1 TO.

    By comparison prior to getting hurt, JD hit 69% of his passes averaging 6.2 ypa, with 2 TDs and 3 picks. He also ran for 38 yards at 2.2 ypc, with 1 TD and 2 lost fumbles. Total 3 TDs and 5 TOs.

    As far as strength of competition, according to football outsiders, Toledo and Miami ranked 89 and 91 in defense last year, respectively. Tennessee, UK and Arky ranked 58, 109 and 94 respectively. That competition is basically a wash between what JD and Murph faced, Murph having one significantly tougher match, and two slightly easier.

    IDK when in the LSU game Murph got hurt. LSUs defense was clearly physically dominant over us and far better than either QB had faced to date. So it is true that competition got much tougher and would also have been true for JD, who was far less elusive than Murph and likely would have had an even rougher time against LSU.

    Aside from the stats, before he got hurt, we had a functional offense under Murphy. Had some flow, players had some confidence, and we converted in the red zone.

    At what other times in the last four years have we had that? Even against our weakest OOC competition?
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    The biggest problem with our backups might have been their positions coaches.
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    I understand why Murphy may have felt we would never get a chance here. I can also understand why he was upset about it. JD SHOULD be a much better QB than TM but there is a big difference between what should happen and what does happen.
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    Moore could not block his shadow last year, was Ivan that bad or is Coach Muschamp that hardheaded, this year is show your stuff.
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    It's the ACC. They're just glad the coach waited those five minutes.
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    Well, I like to compare Murphy's performance to the 400 yards and 6 TD's that Driskel threw against Toledo, a team that almost won the MNC last year.
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