Transparency was a lie from the get go

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    Even as the freshly minted Obama administration was pledging a "new era of open government" in 2009, officials were quietly adding new rules that had the potential to slow down public requests for documents.
    Those rules, detailed in memos reviewed by FoxNews.com, could even trip up present-day efforts to dig into the IRS' practice of targeting conservative groups. The rules detailed in the memos largely emanated from the Treasury Department and, specifically, the IRS.
    "It would seem to repudiate this notion that this is going to be the most transparent government in history," said Dan Epstein, executive director of Cause of Action, the group that first obtained the memos.
    "It would seem to repudiate this notion that this is going to be the most transparent government in history."
    - Dan Epstein, director of Cause of Action
    The memos follow reports about the administration's use of private email accounts, and coincide with ongoing debate about government transparency -- particularly with recent disclosures about widespread surveillance programs.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-document-requests-memos-show/#ixzz2WoPE01eI
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    Obama just needs to be impeached, I'll take my chances with Sir Gaffs-a-lot any day of the week. He'll just end up like Gerald Ford and be booted when election time comes.
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    Hey, it briefed well, right?
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    The first black president could kill his wife in the oval office and he wouldn't be impeached. It will not happen.
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    pretty accurate assessment-however, I think she wears the pants in that relationship
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    To begin with the following are new rules Obama has either created or - unlike the previous occupants - paid attention to:

    1 Release WH visitor logs.
    2 Publish on-line tracking of stimulus bill money - see recovery.gov
    3 Create 2 year wait for ex-cabinet members becoming lobbyists
    4 Send NSA requests to FISA
    5 Put wars and alternative minimum tax numbers in budget calculations.

    I'm sure there are others but I have to go to a job site.

    Happy Friday
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    PS before Obama became president he co-sponsored with Sen Coburn (R-Ok) the bill which created USASpending.gov, a web site showing contracts and other spending by the federal government:

    http://www.usaspending.gov/
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    Wait, if a liberal says that Obama is being attacked because he is black, that is race baiting, but if a conservative says that Obama is not being attacked because he is black, that is 'pretty accurate'?

    Look, when you attack someone for saying that Obama is being criticized because the critic is racist, I want to stand with you guys. There are plenty of reasons to attack Obama that are not race related. (although I do think that many of the attacks occur because he is a democrat, but it is not racism) However, I can't agree with you making the exact same claim in reverse.

    I agree that it is extremely unlikely that Obama will be impeached, but it is not because he is black.
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    Again...name me ONE politician who has NOT lied....:dead::sick:
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    sorry- but part of it is because he is black
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    I'm not really sure how you could know this, but just for argument's sake, then you now agree with liberals that same is true of the attacks on Obama? Or does his blackness only count when it he is benefiting from it?
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    With Obama's scandals, missteps, lack of accomplishment, tepid economic results, decreased respect in the world, disastrous foreign policy blunders, how many think Obama would have this same level of "media support" if he were white?

    Hell, he would have been run out of town for porkulus alone.
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    rade- what I think is that even if there were a mountain of evidence against prezBO, the pubs lack the gonies to move forward and it is because he is the first black prez
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    I actually disagree. I think this is more about pride rather than race. Don't get me wrong, I think race has plenty to do with why this guy is our current President, but this guy is the media's choice -- he was championed by them, they put all their eggs in his "hope & change"-basket, maybe partially because of race, but it's not his race that keeps them protecting him, it's their pride.
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    Maybe, but we've had 43 presidents before Obama, and only four times have we even come close to impeachment. And none of those presidents were black.
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    Tune in tomorrow for another Obama done it episode.

    Same bitch time same bitch station.

    You beat Obama by living free, not by following his every breath. When you follow, he becomes your leader. Yet you are too close to see it.
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    I don't care what freakin' color he is, he's admin is destroying this country and trying to make it like Europe, which there BO's "system" doesn't work yet he thinks it will work here? REALLY? Socialism is awesome until you run out of OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.
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    Obama's whole history and educational background is a lie too. So, what can we do about that?
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    I guess first we can start by finding any evidence for these claims. We can then move on from there.
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    He must be transparent....I can see right through him.
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