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    Biggest winners of CBB Transfer Season

    There has been a record-setting 600 transfers this year. Many left in search of more playing time, some were forced out and others departed to be closer to an ailing relative.

    Transfers have become the new avenue of recruiting, a manner to plug holes -- whether it be immediate via a fifth-year graduate student or with someone who is likely to receive a waiver by being near home.

    Here are the programs that bolstered their rosters the most this offseason, followed by those that lost the most talent due to defections.



    1. Virginia Tech Hokies
    Addition: Seth Allen (Maryland)

    New Hokies coach Buzz Williams picked up only one player, but it was a key one in Allen, who had a chance to be Maryland’s top player this season. He’s a combo guard who averaged 13.4 points and 3.0 assists per game despite missing the first dozen games of the season due to injury. He’ll sit and have two years left, when he’ll certainly become a big part of the rebuilding effort going on in Blacksburg.



    2. Florida Gators
    Additions: Jon Horford (Michigan), John Egbunu (South Florida), Alex Murphy (Duke)

    Billy Donovan filled a major need when he added Horford for this coming season. The Gators need frontcourt depth and while the younger brother of former Gators star Al Horford put up modest numbers (3.8 points, 4.2 rebounds per game) last season at Michigan, he’ll provide veteran stability and allow talented freshman Devin Robinson to come along slower than would have been the case without Horford.

    Florida also added Duke transfer Murphy at the break and he’ll likely be eligible in December. The key will be whether he can get his confidence back. Florida will also bring in athletic 6-foot-10 South Florida transfer Egbunu, who will sit this season and have three years left.



    3. Ohio State Buckeyes
    Additions: Anthony Lee (Temple), Trevor Thompson (Virginia Tech)

    Thad Matta and the Buckeyes picked up a frontcourt guy for now and one for later. Lee averaged 13.6 points and 8.6 rebounds last season for Temple and can play his final season immediately. Thompson is a talented, athletic 7-footer who could benefit greatly from a year of sitting out. He’ll likely sit and then have three seasons to play in Columbus. Lee could be a difference-maker and slide into the spot vacated by LaQuinton Ross.



    4. Gonzaga Bulldogs
    Addition: Byron Wesley (USC)

    Mark Few and the Zags have been desperately lacking a big wing who can score. It’s the missing piece for a team that has a veteran backcourt of Kevin Pangos and Gary Bell Jr., along with enough up front with Przemek Karnowski, former Kentucky forward Kyle Wiltjer and the addition of skilled big man Domantas Sabonis. Wesley is a 6-5 wing who last season led USC in scoring (17.8 points per game) and rebounding (6.4 rebounds per game). He’ll play his final season in Spokane and could be the missing piece for the Zags -- but the big question is how he’ll mesh with the returning players.



    5. Oklahoma Sooners
    Addition: TaShawn Thomas (Houston)

    The Sooners won 23 games and return everyone except power forwards Cameron Clark and Tyler Neal. Lon Kruger has guards Buddy Hield, Isaiah Cousins and Jordan Woodard back in the fold, as well as hard-playing big man Ryan Spangler. The one need is a power forward -- and that’s where Houston transfer TaShawn Thomas comes in.

    The question is whether he’ll be eligible this season (he is attempting to get a waiver) or next. Regardless, Thomas, who averaged 14.5 points, 8.7 rebounds and 2.2 blocks last season at Houston, will be a significant factor. Remember, Hield, Cousins and Spangler will all be juniors this season and Woodard will be a sophomore, so he’ll play with those guys whether it’s this season or next.



    6. Auburn Tigers
    Additions: Kareem Canty (Marshall), Antoine Mason (Niagara), KC Ross-Miller (New Mexico State)

    Bruce Pearl needs players, both now and for the future. Despite not being able to talk to recruits until mid-August, the Tigers were able to land three transfers -- including a pair of guards who will help this season. Mason is the nation’s leading returning scorer after putting up 25.6 points at Niagara while Ross-Miller can be a solid piece with one year left after averaging 8.3 points and 3.5 assists last season at New Mexico State. However, the most important pickup was Canty, who averaged 16.3 points and 5.5 assists last season for Marshall and will have three years of eligibility left after sitting this coming season.



    7. Marquette Golden Eagles
    Addition: Matt Carlino (BYU), Luke Fischer (Indiana), Gabe Levin (Loyola Marymount)

    Buzz Williams added the skilled 6-11 Fischer, a Wisconsin native, in December and new coach Steve Wojciechowski added a scoring point guard guard in Carlino shortly after he came board. He also added the 6-foot-7 Levin, who averaged 11.1 points and 7.1 rebounds as a freshman at LMU, just a few days ago. Carlino should provide immediate help after averaging 13.7 points as a junior at BYU. He’s eligible to play this season while Fischer will be eligible for the second semester. Levin will sit and have three seasons to play. Look for both Carlino and Fischer to be major contributors for the Golden Eagles in Year 1 of the Wojo Era.



    8. Michigan State Spartans
    Additions: Eron Harris (West Virginia), Bryn Forbes (Cleveland State)

    Tom Izzo has missed on some guys lately, and the Spartans lost a bunch of last year’s team ( Adreian Payne, Gary Harris and Keith Appling). The additions of Harris and Forbes will help. Harris is an Indianapolis native who averaged 17.2 points last season at West Virginia. He’ll sit out this season, but Forbes could get a waiver. He’s a local kid who put up 15.6 points at Cleveland State and will have two years left. Both players can score from the wing, an area the Spartans could improve upon.



    9. Iowa State Cyclones
    Addition: Bryce Dejean-Jones (UNLV), Hallice Cooke (Oregon State)

    Fred Hoiberg has turned Iowa State into Transfer U -- and it’s worked so far, so how can you question the moves? The latest additions are a pair of scoring wings. Dejean-Jones is on his third stop, a major red flag. He played at USC as a freshman and at UNLV the last two seasons (two years in which the Runnin’ Rebels underachieved). Cooke can really shoot it and will sit out and have three seasons of eligibility left while Dejean-Jones will play his final season in 2014-15.



    10. Creighton Bluejays
    Additions: Cole Huff (Nevada), Maurice Watson (Boston University), Ricky Kreklow (California)

    Greg McDermott lost a ton -- his son and consensus National Player of the Year, Doug, in addition to Ethan Wragge, Grant Gibbs and Jahenns Manigat. The Bluejays will take a step back this season, but have been active in the transfer market. They added two players who should help down the road.

    Huff is a skilled big man who averaged 12.4 points and 5.4 boards at Nevada last season while Watson thrived at Boston University, averaging 13.3 points and 7.1 assists. Kreklow has been injured for much of his career, though he’s a wing with size who can make shots when healthy. He’ll be eligible this season.



    11. Manhattan Jaspers
    Addition: Jermaine Lawrence (Cincinnati)

    Steve Masiello may have had a rough offseason, but the addition of Lawrence, the talented 6-9 New York native, was huge for both him and the Jaspers. Lawrence was hurt for much of last season and wasn’t quite ready to play extended minutes, but he could be a star in the MAAC. He was considered a consensus top 25 player coming out of high school and has tremendous upside. Lawrence will try and get a waiver to play next season; however, even if he doesn’t, he’ll get stronger while sitting out and then have three seasons left.



    12 (a). Georgia State Panthers
    Additions: Kevin Ware (Louisville), Jeremy Hollowell (Indiana), Isaiah Williams (Samford)

    Ron Hunter has added Ware, who is optimistic of being 100 percent healthy both mentally and physically after the broken leg in March of 2013 that captured the nation’s attention. Ware and Hollowell, who averaged 5.7 points per game as a sophomore at Indiana, should both flourish with dropping down a level, while Williams was the Southern Conference Freshman of the Year after averaging 11.9 points at Samford last season. Look for Ware to get an NCAA waiver to play this season. Hollowell and Williams will both sit.
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    Thank God we got our share this time.
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    What's the over/under on how long it takes Bruce Pearl to get Awbrin in trouble? I say 2 years and 1 month.
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    Actually, transfers in college have been increasing in number and proportion for quite some time and this appears to reflect the general mobility of the US population. Even back in the late 90s, as Cliff Adelman in his wonderful research work on Paths to Degree "The Toolbox Revisited" (http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/toolboxrevisit/toolbox.pdf) noted that among college students who started in the late 90s and actually earned a degree, over 60% of them attended at least two colleges and many attended three or more before graduating (this was true for both of my sons, at my recommendation, because I am an efficiency expert).

    Adelman, who is one of the most brilliant researchers to ever walk this path, was trying to show just how silly the traditional ways of thinking about college are in today's world, meanwhile showing just how idiotic for rating purposes is the utterly simplistic 6-year graduation rate for incoming freshmen, who now make up less than half of the student population at all but the elite institutions (by the way, Florida is one of those Elites).
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    I gotta question how getting one guy, who based on stats looks pretty much like a gunner on a bad team, is better than the 3 guys we got.

    It's a silly ranking but there's not much to complain about now :)
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    I agree wholeheartedly. I like our group much more than that one guy.
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    We used to NEVER get transfers. Now we not only get them all the time, we get GOOD ones. I think Vernon Macklin got the ball rolling for us.
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    Regarding one versus three, of course, of the Gator transfers this year, Horford played some time, but the only real contributor to this team was Egbunu. Both Murphy and Horford contributed very minimally although they fill the immediate need for front court type players.
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    Yeah, people are projecting a lot on Murphy when he has done little since prep school. I hope he can get eligible to start the season as he needs minutes to become a college contributor. I am less worried about Horford. I think his college stats will translate reasonably to more minutes.
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    My expectations for Murphy are not based on his college career so far. They're based on the video I've seen of him, both at the high school and college level. He's quite athletic and can put it on the floor and drive to the hoop quite well for a big man. I have to assume Duke had a lot of guys ahead of him at his position.
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    He definitely helped getting DFS, who he was best friends with from Portsmouth. This article might mean more to Gator fans than it did when it was published

    http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20110323/articles/110329808
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    Bringing in transfers is such a boost to the program. So what if they've already used up some of their eligibility? When you bring in a freshman, most often he doesn't produce much that first year, and only becomes a viable part of the mix as a sophomore. Bring in a transfer and you get a guy who already is accustomed to the demands of college life and college hoops, plus you usually get a year of ineligibility in which they can learn your system and gain strength and experience. By the time they can actually suit up for you, you've got a veteran player. Instant production.

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