To 'serve' and protect

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  1. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled Premium Member

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  2. WESGATORS

    WESGATORS Well-Known Member

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    Just a way to make drug dealing safer for all involved.

    Go GATORS!
    ,WESGATORS
  3. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 Well-Known Member

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    I think they need to change how they screen for potential cops in the future.
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    wgbgator Sub-optimal Poster Premium Member

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    Then what else will self-righteous, burgeoning sociopaths do for jobs?
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    Gatorrick22 Well-Known Member

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    Some of them are that... it's true, I believe.
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    demosthenes Well-Known Member

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    This has a already happened plenty of times. There was a really famous scandal a few decades ago in NYC where cops were running drugs for dealers in the trunks of their service vehicles. Pretty safe way of moving drugs if you're a drug kingpin.
  7. oldgator

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    Gatorrick, we disagree massively on most every issue. But in regard to your comment I'm of the same opinion(for decades)

    though both firemen and police both 'protect and serve' the public, the incidence of violent crimes, etc committed by firemen is far less than by police officers.

    I believe similar studies have also shown the following in regard to police
    ---state troopers have much lower incidence of committing violent crimes, etc than do county or local police officers.

    Thing to do is to identify the differences motivation for serving as firemen/state troopers and county/local police. And in particular look at what attracted those officers who do commit crime to go into police work to begin with.

    With the demand for more and more people to do security type work in America you can expect that more and more bottom of the barrel types will be entering police forces, TSA, etc
  8. Spurffelbow833

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    I think all cops should be hot females. At least I'd enjoy the abuse in a twisted kind of way.
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    Quite frankly I'm not sure you can use firemen as a control group. They aren't in day to day contact with criminal elements like police and troopers. That has to lower the jaded effect and any temptation to engage in criminal behavior. Fireman also do not exercise control over the general public on such an extensive basis.

    If state troopers have a lower rate of criminal activity (haven't seen anything supporting this) I'd like to know what their typical day was like compared to municipal and county officers. Are they more likely to investigate murders, enforce speeding on interstates, etc.? Also who comprises their hiring pool? Can you step right in as a greenhorn and be a state trooper or do you usually have to have some experience as a municipal or county trooper?
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    Gatorrick22 Well-Known Member

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    Very magnanimous of you, Old. And I mean that in the most sincere way. :grin:

    I also agree with your post above.
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    malligator Well-Known Member

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    Run for POTUS?
  13. oldgator

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    i included firemen as a control group for screenng due to lower rate of violent crimes of firemen. I would suspect that state troopers have similar low rates of committing violent crimes. The key is to identify traits of those who later turned out to be bad eggs. and identify traits from the control groups that may serve to indicate lower likelihood of committing violent crime.

    Another stat that does not get much press is the somewhat high rate(double) of spouse abuse committed by police officers compared to other occupations.

    see article below
    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Police-domestic-violence-nearly-twice-average-rate-2536928.php

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