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  1. MichiGator2002
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    I'd have to double check, but I'm pretty sure even the radio exhortations that began the Rwandan genocide were pretty euphemistic. Why would anybody ever say "race war"? the last people who would ever speak the very words would be people trying to promote one. Just to play devil's advocate.
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    I'm not sure why people think a "hate crime" is when someone from one race kills one from another, especially when it happens in the process of a robbery.
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    Indeed, why would anyone say "race war" (that hadn't just read Helter Skelter or something)? If you read my post, the only people who seem to openly use the term "race war" are conservative pundits (who seem to fear this prospect), and people in the Alex Jones orbit (who seem to think this is an actual agenda of whoever's interest this serves).
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    Of the handful of examples... the Brunswick robbery, the Zimmerman case, the assaulted jogger... only one of these at face value looks like an arguable hate crime.

    BTW... I think hate crimes statutes are idiotic and unconstitutional. I don't know if there has ever been a constitutional challenge to a hate crimes statute or not, but I really doubt they could be upheld on 1st and 14th amendment grounds that I wouldn't find to be mostly BS.
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    Here's another case in Georgia where a 13 month old was shot and killed and his mother injured by two black teens... Where's the racism in this? Where's Obama and his henchman to cry hate crime for this one?

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2931273

    This country needs to wake up and stop trying to cater to others.
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    Some serious misunderstanding of the legal concept of a "hate crime."
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    When did Obama declare the Zimmerman case to be a hate crime?
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    Who is fantasizing about something as terrible as this would be?

    If any one is, it's the AA leaders who continually use opportunities like this to capitalize in any way possible.
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    I think I just mentioned who was fantasizing about it. People fantasize about terrible things. I mean, we've got about a million TV show and movies about zombie apopcalypses and end of days scenarios, and reality TV shows about people who prepare for doomsday events.
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    Yeah, I am sure killing a baby was just a misunderstanding or a reaction for the mother not having money. Deliberately killing a baby in a stroller is an act of hate or does someone have a different explanation?
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    You cant tell I dont watch much TV? I dont know that I could name someone considered a 'conservative pundit' and dont have a clue who Alex Jones is.

    These folks are pretty warped if they really want a race war.
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    Not sure if the direct quote "race war" was used but boy was he in rare (well for him might be normal) form. I only got to see the minute or so cnn cut in and it was sad watching him exploit race...
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    It's not hate man!! That would be racist! This country and it's double standards! Fu**ing joke! This stuff literally pisses me off, and makes me realize no wonder there's so much hate.
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    I dont know if they "want" it. But they are the only ones I've seen use the term "race war" or "race riot" lately as some sort of realistic, even inevitable possibility.
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    This!

    For all intents and purposes any crime is a "hate" crime...
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    Actually I think there is a lot of satire showing the absurdity of Holder...
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    FYI, the simple fact that a crime was committed against someone of another race doesn't mean that it is a hate crime. You would have a bit of an uphill road to prove that a robbery, even a shockingly violent one, was motivated by bias.
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    Agreed.
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    A brief explanation of a hate crime is to deliberately harm, injure or irritate one because of their race, religion sexual oreintation,etc.
    It seems that to prove Zimmerman is guilty of a hate crime, they must show he has racial bias in his past or shot Martin just because he was black.

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