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The Shrinking President

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by diehardgator1, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. diehardgator1
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    This writer hit the nail on the head. Never has the prestige of the US been lower Who could have thought one man could not make this big a fool of himself


    "This is truly a sad moment for the American Presidency.

    After clumsily walking back from a “red line” that he himself set – and later denied setting – and knowing he has lost the American public, Congress and most of our usually stalwart allies, President Barack Obama went on national television Tuesday night to discuss the Syrian crisis. He said …

    Fill in the blank. He both declared that we are the world’s policeman and that we’re not. That we always seek peace but will bomb the crap out of anyone who steps over some red line that, again, he did not draw. That we will protect the innocents, but that these innocents (the ones gassed in Syria) can wait before protection – if they’re protected at all.

    He has ignored the UN, saying it was pointless to get authorization from the Security Council. He said targeted military strikes didn’t have a time table. “A month from now,” he could wait.


    http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/the-incredible-shrinking-presidency/
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    It was lower when we attacked another country on trumped up intelligence.
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    Obama is out doing Carter's ineptness. He's the laughing stock of the world right now and deservedly so.

    Thank God John Kerry didn't become POTUS... he's just as inept as Obama.
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    geez shab you should just change your name to but Bush
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    I think Obama has been a largely miserable President but these grandiose statements about "worst ever" or "lowest esteem ever" etc for Presidents in either party are mostly hyperbolic rhetoric.
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    How about "most damage ever" to the economy?
    That grandiose statement has a lot of support.
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    By what measure?

    Jimmy Carter added $250b in deficits over 4 years while Reagan added almost $1.5b in 8.

    Would anyone say Carter was better for the economy than Reagan despite running a better P&L?
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    another interesting viewpoint on ole prezBO

    http://personalliberty.com/2013/09/13/is-this-obamas-dumbest-mistake-yet/

    from the op ed

    In a lifetime of watching Presidential addresses, I have never seen a bigger waste of time than Obama’s speech that night. The best thing about it was that it was short: only 16½ minutes long. But what was the point of it?
    In her blog, Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan called the speech a “time filler.” That it was. She wrote:
    He should have canceled the speech. It was halfhearted, pro forma and strange. It added nothing, did not deepen or advance the story, was not equal to the atmosphere surrounding it, and gave no arguments John Kerry hasn’t made, often more forcefully, in the past 10 days.
    True. The original purpose of the speech — to rally support for military strikes against Syria — was no longer valid. Instead, the President said he had asked Congress “to postpone a vote to authorize the use of force, while we pursue this diplomatic path.” He’s called for meetings of the U.N. Security Council in New York City. He’s sent Kerry to Geneva to meet with the Russian foreign minister. He himself will continue to talk with Putin. Meanwhile, he’ll keep all U.S. military forces in place, just in case.
    In another post, Noonan wrote: “The president will keep the possibility of force on the table, but really he’s lunging for a lifeline he was lucky to be thrown.”
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    People who worked in the Carter administration would dispute Jimmy's record of inept leadership and terrible stewardship of the US both domestically and internationally. Don't know anyone else who would...maybe his relatives?
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    Fred, the more you compare Obama to Bush, the better Bush is looking in the rear view mirror and I was not particularly a huge fan. I underestimated Bush compared to the Doofus we have now.
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    Gatorbill still posting ultra con spin BS from that website I see.

    looks like you are trying to emulate the deceptions of Fox(Faux facts and Republican math)

    love how you try to con folks by insinuating that op-eds(opinions) from a extremely biased source are honest, truthful, and without bias. I don't post crap from Maddow, Olbermann, etc to try to con you. Please have the decency to not post bias and try to insinuate it as a unbiased.

    BTW---have you checked into PIC lines? There are a multitude of applications for sonographers both in medical field as well as other areas.
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    At least Bush could lead and take action.

    All Obama does is wait, stall, and finally react.
    Unfortunately his reaction is that of a poorly executed return if a 160 MPH tennis serve.
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    That was my point.

    By most objective measures the OA has been miserably ineffective; the partisan subjective conjecture of "worst this or that" is just that, subjective conjecture.
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    Obama is in so far over his head it has become a joke!! I guess community leader (whater the f that is) dosen't translate into good president.
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    He posted the direct-link to the article. All you had to do was click on it to see that it was an Op-ed. How exactly is he conning people and being deceptive?
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    This is BS!!!!
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    As opposed to the cons, who just hurl open insults with no ramifications.
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    It's a shame that we might be viewed this way. But it's far better to have a "shrinking" President than a war we don't need, can't afford, and could escalate. The rest of the world doesn't care if Syrians are gassed. Sad truth.

    I don't like how the media's taking this opportunity to make Putin some kind of rock star. He's probably dirty with hundreds of murder-orders himself, rumored to have stolen tens of billions from his country, etc. He's a seriously bad guy.
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    The amount of debt doesn't correspond to the health of the economy.

    The first time I ever heard the term "Misery Index" was in reference to Jimmy Carter. I think it is a combination of interest rate + unemployment + inflation. It was pretty damn high under Carter.

    I like Jimmy Carter. I think he is misguided but tries to see the good in everything. Sometimes though, there is no good to see.

    0bama just had no real world experience, which you can only get in the real world. Unfortunately, to get that real world experience, it usually comes from making a lot of mistakes and learning from them. OJT as POTUS is just a bad formula and he just compounds the mistakes by not learning from them.
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