The real obstruction in the "obstructionist" Congress..

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  1. BobK89
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    So much for hope and change.
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    Freaking kiddy games.
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    So liberals expect to get an up or down vote based on the word of Harry Reid??

    Hr is a liar, a crooked politician, and an overall POS. I don't trust him.
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    Why do you think despite two bipartisan attempts at tax reform, it is going no where?

    Harry Reid.

    He is a progressive cad who puts his own interests ahead of the American people.

    But we will never know it because the progressive terrorists control most of the media and we will never hear the truth.
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    So pubs put poison pills into bills and still expect them to be debated?

    Typical.
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    .......... Negotiated but, Obama and Reid already stated they were not going to negotiate with the republicans.
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    You did it again; tacitly acknowledged that Reid blocking it from being taken up by the Senate is essential to keep it from passing. Almost as if Democrat Senators who might be facing reelection would have to vote for it if put in front of them or risk losing their job, which would in turn lead to go aka having to veto something that actually passed with bipartisan support.

    Yes, that is exactly why Reid ignores legislation from the House -- because that is what keeps it from passing.
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    Obviously... Reid is too dumb to act on his own.
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    Sounds like blackmail to me...
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    or politics. both sides are clearly using the powers of procedure. In some ways to get what they want, but it seems like it's more often just to make the other side look bad without accomplishing anything else.
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    well since all bills passed by the House have to then go to the Senate and master Reid never even lets them out of procedures-seems to me the biggest culprit is Harry Reid- DEMOCRAT
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    you don't think the record number of filibusters and clotures in the Senate have anything to do with it?
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    I sincerely doubt that the intent of our democracy was to allow ONE man hold the entire body of Congress hostage.

    By anyone's measure, the entire Obama reign has been detrimental to promoting America's style of democracy.

    Or, perhaps, in our Constitutional Scholar's/current President's mind, this is exactly how our political system was designed?
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    right. how could using the filibuster a record number of times to prevent a vote on a bill possibly slow down bills in the Senate?
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    Is Reid not allowing amendments to the bills because:

    a.) they will pass and the White House would then have to veto, or

    b.) they will fail but the Senators will be one record as voting for or against something?
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    could be either one. why aren't the Republicans allowing a vote on the bill without it being cluttered with a bunch of amendments on both sides? If they think it's a good bill, pass it and come back later for other stuff.
    if it's not, vote it down.
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    Why the change in procedure? The Senate has been having amendments to bills for as long as I can remember. Ask yourself the same thing about the amendments: If they think its a good amendment, pass it, if not vote it down.
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    Why doesn't Reid allow for a negotiation on the amendments to the Shaheen legislation?

    Good questions, why isn't Reid allowing a vote on the pipeline legislation? There's a great deal of support for the bill. Is Reid afraid it will pass?
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    As does Boehner in the reverse, whenever there is a chance that a bill the pubs don't want has a chance to pass.

    So?

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