The Phins are good...maybe very good.

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    Defensively yes. The front 7 is playing well and back end is looking improved. I'm not saying they are better defensively but looking improved enough to help with the offensive problems.

    With uncertainty in regards to Gronk and DA, offense is a huge question mark but I trust the Pats to run the ball in crunch time better than the Fins. Like I said before with, the difference is small enough that we will split a ton and without comparing schedules, I'd only expect the Pats would have maybe a 1 game difference in win expectancy.

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    Definitely a team on the major rise.
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    Score should not have been that close. We had Luck caught for multiple sacks, but the dude magically fell out of the defenders grasp to make one spectacular play after another. Luck was definitely the better quarterback, but our defense was heads and shoulders better than the Colts.

    And as for the win, I feel confident in saying, for the first time in as long as I remember, our coaches designed the better game-plan and made better in-game adjustments.
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    Grimes is a big upgrade over Sean Smith. He challenges wide receivers and even though he's a short guy, he plays much taller than he is, which is 5'9" if I'm not mistaken.

    Clemmons and the Poodle have grown into solid pair of safeties Jimmy Wilson isn't all that, but for a nickle guy, he's worked out okay for a 7th rounder. I actually saw Nolan Carroll break up a pass yesterday without getting flagged for PI. Thinking back that we wasted a #1 on Vernon Davis' brother and #2 on Sean (I can't hold on to a football) Smith makes me sick. At least Ireland knew when to cut bait with those two wasted picks.

    Now the really good news. Ellerbee and Wheeler are big upgrades over Dansby and Burnett. Throw in Dion Jordan and you have a major upgrade in the front seven. Even Koa Misi is looking decent.

    I think Miami finally has the defense it needs, nasty up front and good enough on the back end to keep those awful implosions that happened during the Soprano era from happening again.
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    This is well stated.

    There is also a nice armed QB with some weapons.

    tighten up the OL and run the ball, effectively at least....and it will be fun ride this year.

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    The Dolphins still need a SERIOUS upgrade at offensive skill spots. TE and RB are not places to go cheap and depend on "acorns".

    My fear is they have a 2008-like mirage of a good season and that lets ireland keep his job. He is an inept, clueless buffoon. He does NOT know how to draft offensive players. The coaching staff held out for Tannehill against ireland who wanted another cornfed OL or DL. ireland's total philosophy of football is flawed- defense over offense, inside-out, go cheap at key positions, worry over cap more than signing actual talent.

    To be a real lasting force in this league Ross needs to fire ireland and get the kind of GM (and players) Philbin wants.
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    But they did all of that THIS off season. They got the best wide out available, and a great ball catching TE. Unfortunately Keller took a cheap shot to the knee.

    I was with you until this season. But the upgrade at both LB spots as well as in the secondary and at wide out were VERY good upgrades. They actually do have good backs too. A couple good OL moves this upcoming off season and this team becomes a real contender.
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    I'm with you on Ireland, but in my opinion, this past offseason seemed like it had less of Ireland's stamp on it than the past.

    Spending money on Wallace didn't seem like a Jeffy move. Ellerbee and Wheeler were smart acquisitions, along with the dumping of Dansby and Burnett's salaries.

    Letting Reggie Bush go was a smart move. I didn't think the team could afford to pay him what Detroit ended up giving him.

    Also, I noticed that there were no offensive linemen taken in the first round by Miami. Also, Miami traded up to get Jordan. Past Ireland drafts saw us trading mid first round picks for multiple lower round picks. I didn't see that this year.

    I believe Philbin is getting what he wants here and if he has a good season, it will make him look good. Of course, it will help Ireland too, but how much longer do you want to suffer as a Dolfan in order to prove a point about a bad GM?
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    ...and maybe just maybe, jeff is evolving as a GM and he and Philbin are a nice complimentary match. #fingerscrossed

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    Ughhh I hate that you got one of my favorite Falcons Brent Grimes.

    Aside from that - see ya soon Fins.
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    But Steven Jackson and Sean Witherspoon will not ;)

    Of course Jackson is my flex guy on my fantasy team :/

    #gophins

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    Hoping Snelling and Jacquizz fill the spot -- orrrrrr to the air we go.

    Could be a great game though from my perspective for both teams.
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    I agree. Good test to see where Miami is...and a nice early outdoor test for the Birds to guage where they are as well.

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    Birds should soar outside, but it seems that when we leave the dome we suck-
    I think this might be behind the removable top for the new stadium.

    Can't wait for another great football weekend.
    Let's just hope our Gators come out alive in the swamp -- I'd hate to lose to UT
    ughhhh - The loss would follow me up here for another year.
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    It sure seems that way. I know Ireland pushed for McCoy and Ross wanted Philbin, obviously Ross won that round.

    Meathead Sparano was so far in over his head that he was useless when it came to the advisory capacity of the head coach as far as personnel go. Ireland and Parcells called all of the shots until Tuna snuck away. In retrospect, his departure was a godsend for this organization. Parcell's 80's formula of big, strong and slow does not match up well against Beelzebub and the Patriots.

    I liked the Philbin hire from the outset. I'm happy to see him having some success, hope it continues along with Tannehill's progress.
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    Amen!

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    Me too. He cleaned house first. Then started to build it right.

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    Me too. He cleaned house first. Then started to build it right.

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