The Phins are good...maybe very good.

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    The best young QB on the field today was arguably NOT Andrew Luck. Tannehill looked VERY poised, threw for over 300 yards, and Miami is 2-0 with both wins coming on the road.

    I honestly think they will win the AFC East for the first time since 2008.

    They must improve running the ball, but they looked better on the ground today than last week....

    @Baza @Lincoln etc...What do you guys think. Are they for real?
    Will we celebrate a division title?

    I say yes! #gophins :yes:
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    Looked to me. Very good
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    Wild card good, but if NE takes a big slide, they might get the East. I still see major weaknesses in the OL and running game. They need to improve there to be a threat to go far in the playoffs.

    I agree about Tannehill and Jeffy Boy actually went out and got him some targets. He's going to have a nice career.

    Miami needed to bite the bullet and draft a QB and put themselves in position to capitalize as Brady ages and eventually retires. There will be a few years of transition in NE and who knows, maybe Belezebub retires and that opens a big door.
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    really proud of this team. offense is SO much better. wish WM would take notes
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    Ryan Tanneyhill is the first legit QB since Marino, minus Pennington who got hurt. This is the best the Phins have looked in a long time, offense needs to find a running game but that may open up as teams realize that Tanneyhill is throwing darts, interesting that Gilesslie has been inactive the last two games despite the fact that Miller and Thomas both missed blocks on linebackers that led to turnovers, maybe the rumors that Gilesslie couldn't pass block are true because he had a pretty good pre season running and catching out of the backfield. Really, this game should not have been this close, the Dolphins had Luck for 3-4 sacks and easily let him escape 3-4 more that led to big play, that kid remind s me of Bernie Kosar, he just doesn't look the part but is much bigger and faster than you would think
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    Tilly....I'm just glad we got a new coach and QB.

    That's a great start.

    I truly hope we get to the playoffs this year and not by limping in....

    Today, Indy could have beaten us had they not stalled on that final drive. We should have ran the clock out on OUR drive. I will wait for a few more games before getting excited but am hoping for the best.
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    Until yesterday, Luck had a habit of engineering those two minute drives (ala Kenny Stabler).

    The defense rose up and shut them down in the red zone, denying them on four straight pass attempts. Past Dolphin defenses would have wilted under the pressure.
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    Yeah...now that they got Sturgis
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    And Jelani, Gilly, Pouncey and etc. :)
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    They have looked good 2 road wins are impressive.
    I'm concerned about their OT play and Tannehill having time to throw against good defenses.
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    Any given Sunday.....
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    Don't think the fins are very good. 9-7, 7-9 team.

    They have some serious issues on the OL and RB is also a weakness. Their D is legit though. Colts OL is terrible, Browns OL is terrible.

    Still not sold on Tannehill.

    We shall see.
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    The goal of the NFL is parity. The NFL (offices) wants EVERY team to be 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7. When a team goes 2-14 (like the Jags) or 12-4 (or better), the NFL does not like this. Why? Attendance and fan support/involvement. When a team falls to 1-8, the fans don't give a shlt anymore and the last 7 games have lower viewership (ratings), less attendance, less sales, less money for "the league". So having a 14-2 team is not good for business (sure, THAT particular team and it's fans are happy....but somewhere out there a team is going to be 5-11 or worse and the fans have given up).

    If the Fins are a 9-7 team, that is good. It keeps the fans interested (hoping for 10-6, 11-5 and for a playoff birth). I don't think the Fins are very good, yet...but they are certainly on the right track. Remember, several years ago the Pats went 15-1 and their one loss was to a winless Fins team (that finished 1-15).... Any given Sunday.
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    7-9? They just beat 2 teams on the road to start the season. Granted the Browns are a mess, the phins did what they were supposed to do. They did the same against a last year's wild card Colts. The AFC east is out of sorts regarding reliably stiff competition. Why 7-9?

    What about Tannehill is glaringly questionable ... beyond only being in his second year?
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    No. The fins beat Baltimore in OT for their single win. Not the Pats.

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    They went 7-9 last year. That's their average record for the past 5 seasons.

    I know weird things happen...but if they just beat the bad teams on their schedule they win 7 games this year.

    I think they will go 5-1 in division alone. Sweeping Buffalo and NYJ and splitting with the Pats they should also be favored vs. Carolina and Tampa.that's a real 8 win possibility...also Pittsburgh and Baltimore are very beatable.

    Thats 10 wins. That's with no real upsets.

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    Obviously the fins are improving under Philbin. I am not sold on Tannehill yet. Mainly turnovers and some questionable decisions. Him and Weedon didnt look too different when they played, except the Dolphins caught their INT's and the Browns dropped theirs.

    This next stretch of games will tell us a lot about the fins. AFC East is a mess, but none of the games, even against the Jets are automatic wins. Still see a team that is mediocre, but improving.

    Running game is a mess and Ireland not addressing the OL was a big mistake. OL is not very good. That said, the defense is very strong and the WRs are much improved.
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    Even seasoned QBs are going to make questionable decisions from time to time. (Did you see the pick 6 Brees threw yesterday?) It often depends if their teammates are good enough to bail them out (Manziel's jump balls on Saturday). At this point in his NFL career, I think Tannehill is better than expected.

    Yes, the OL isn't there ... but the balance of the team, division quality and balance of schedule points to a better than .500 record. Finger's crossed that I'm right.
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    Well said.

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