The number of people recieving government benefits outnumbers full time workers

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    How many people were in both categories?

    It appears that their number of recipients includes children, how might this skew the results?
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    Regardless of any political ideology (and this reeks of communism), consider this in terms of simple mathematics, the true universal languange:

    Government dependents > full-time workers= BROKE AS A FREAKING JOKE.
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    This has actually happened a few times in the past. Keep in mind that you're calling, for example, retired military "government dependents."
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    You gotta look at the 'big picture' phil. This is essentially the same as over in the middle east--you have full grown terrorists and then little terrorists who grow up to be adult, full grown terrorists.

    Same thing here as you have the full grown adult moochers, and the little moochers will grow up to be adult, full grown moochers.

    Think big and in the long run....not in the present day status. Just looking at these numbers present day doesn't give the clear picture. Project yourself out 15-20 years when the whole country will be comprised of full blown, full grown, liberal moochers, takers, and do-nothings.
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    Indeed, its totally possible to work full-time and qualify for food stamps, medicaid, WIC, and other gov't assistance, especially if you have children.
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    The numbers are in the article:

    Yes, the first number counts people in household receiving the benefit. Of course, many of the benefits are specifically for families with children and many of the households were receiving multiple types of benefits:

    If you then add SS and Medicare that are non-means tested, the total people receiving government support jumps up to 151,014,000. This is unsustainable.
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    Exactly the reason we are in this mess. No one can think long term. No one can save money for 10 years to buy a house. They get a sub-prime loan with 100% financing and buy the house now. No one saves for retiremet. It's easier to blow whatever you have (and some of what you don't) on stuff now instead of saving.

    Americans don't think about down the road repercussions. They can't see past the tip of their noses.

    Planning for retirement? Never heard of that.....
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    Since neither side looks to be in a hurry to get rid of tax loopholes that help keep jobs offshore, it looks like the push for jobs here is waiting in line behind those making the profit now.

    Looks like a clear case of need for full time jobs.
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    WRT to the OP, full-time jobs are meaningless if they pay so little as to still qualify you for various gov't assistance. We need full-time jobs that aren't McJobs.
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    The article is specifically referencing means-tested benefits.
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    Good paying jobs are under attack on all fronts. Even the immigration bill has people demanding to allow high skilled, lower wage import computer people into the nation ahead of orange pickers.

    You already hear it from many the need to move to better quality people immigrating which is code for we want cheaper labor to remove even more good paying jobs.
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    What's the problem?

    As someone who will eventually retire from the military, I can tell you that when I start getting paid my retirement, I will in fact be a government dependent.

    And, I would be very happy to see our government cut back on its military spending. In a post Cold War, we should drastically cut back on the number of military retirees.

    Regardless, the community of military retirees are relatively tiny. There are only 2 million military retirees currently. That's less than 2% of the total number of government dependents.
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    We are an increasingly 2 tier society - those that have the modern skills to create and maintain the technology needed in today's world, and those who provide services (many menial) for those that do.

    Those in the latter category are being left behind, job or no job.
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    Full time workers are supporting their own dependents, if they have any + all those on federal assistance.

    Now ... I would eliminate any folks on SS retirement benefits if they are included in the federal number and they are receiving benefits based solely on their former employment in the private sector.
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    why work when the government will give you a bunch of stuff for free!! loaded EBT cards, free housing, free medical care, cellphone, bus passes!

    working is too hard---free stuff is easier.
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    As Dave Ramsey says about Obamacare...it's about the math. The math doesn't work. Same thing here. When more are in the wagon than there are pulling the wagon, the math won't work and the horses break down or go on strike. (if they are union horses)
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    The math better work, for the sake of capitalism, that or something akin to a 2nd industrial revolution must occur, where a massive labor force is actually needed by the economy.

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