The New Libya

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    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/12/27/four-us-military-personnel-being-held-by-libyan-government/

    Sounds legit, right? I'm sure that our military personnel were being horribly uncivil and a bad element in general. In no way could this suggest that we've got a new government in Libya that's actually less friendly to us than the previous one, just like their apparent total disinterest in the murder of our ambassador or any attempt by their law enforcement or military to intervene didn't reflect badly on their relationship with us in the post-Qaddafi regime.

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    Might as well try to make friends with a bunch of scorpions.
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    Yes four military members were held for a few hours in an area generally seen as friendly to Westerners and released relatively quickly, with no information given as to the cause. Nobody was hurt. That is clearly less friendly than a regime that actually killed our civilians. Of course, this is only true if the goal were for some cheap political points rather than genuine concern about Libya, but we all know that isn't true.
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    Genuine concern about the United States should be our guiding star in foreign policy -- even our Libyan policy, moreso than concern for Libya. Petty to comment on? Perhaps. But it still merits complaint that there is something near-suicidally stupid about willfully, intentionally encouraging shifts from a mostly cowed and cooperative dictator in Libya to the zoo it is, and a friendly dictator in Egypt to first an openly unfriendly one and now the zoo it is. I will find it worth pointing out when things go bad for Americans in those areas amidst the wreckage of our last few years' efforts there .
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    I am a scorpion, it is what I do........
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    Just imagine if some dictator had financed the destruction of a plane full of our civilians under somebody not named Reagan what your reaction would be. Detention of four military personnel for a few hours in which nobody got hurt is apparently worse for US policy than allowing the murder of 189 of our citizens to go completely unpunished. Who knew?
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    News reports said they ran a checkpoint and it showed a wrecked and charred SUV
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    It shouldn't have gone completely unpunished, but suitable punishment would not, then or now, have necessarily included encouraging an uprising against Qaddafi if what came in behind would be worse or even less reliable. Qaddafi was a post-9/11 success story in terms of the "War on Terror" in that he pretty much immediately bared his throat on state-sponsored terrorism (as did the IRA, but it was trending that way anyway); that's why I called him a cowed dictator. Qaddafi was an evil piece of crap, but he was a fairly whipped pony at this point. He was not, at the very least, planning to murder the US ambassador, nor planning to throw open his weapons caches to let whomever in his country wanted to pilfer them do so so that they could murder the US ambassador.
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