The Leftists Daily KOS Gets ObamaCare Bill: 'What the Hell Kind of Reform Is This?'

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    No leftists at all on here. This is awesome. The silence is deafening.
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    They would normally be singing Hussein's praise....maybe they are just now finding out how "free" Hussein Care really is and are so pissed now that they will vanish for a while. They will never admit they are wrong though on this POS legislation.
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    They are in denial. When KOS starts abjectly rejecting Obamacare look out. The liberals will be on full tilt.
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    Bump.

    The comments on this thing are enlightening, and really provide some insight into a lot of the views of the far left. Bickering about who's actually liberal and who's not, the impossibilities of it being ACA's or Obama's fault the insurance rates go up, etc -- the two parties really are mirror-images in a lot of ways.

    I believe the whole point of the post on Daily KOS, is that the person posting believed their insurance would stay the same(Weren't they promised this?), they liked their coverage and the prices, and believed there wouldn't be any changes at all. When they received the changes, they were told by their insurance company that it was because of the ACA. Funnily enough, people in the comments claim the insurance company is lying, just using to the excuse to "make profit." Other funny things in the comment included some silly analogy about buying cars and sticker price, completely missing the point that their insurance wasn't supposed to change at all in the first place.
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    The people are getting the government they deserve.

    It does appear Obamacare is coming apart at the seams.
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    But thought it was free
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    Read it all, and hardly something to get all excited about

    The guy was clearly trying to get away with crap catastrophic coverage that is no longer available due to minimum requirements.

    Now he has to pay more but will actually receive real insurance. Which is probably a good thing since he has a baby now.

    Would be interested to know what the exchanges offered him.

    On a side note, should be post every anecdotal positive story and do a liberal circle jerk?

    That being said, ACA is a privatized solution that I don't prefer.
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    Fixed it for you
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    Again, the folks who claim "CHOICE" when it comes to women actually write this:

    "The guy was clearly trying to get away with crap catastrophic coverage...."

    Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?p=6927546#post6927546#ixzz2iNak1U8c

    1. "Trying to get away....." OMG. Yeah...he was a bad, bad man because (perhaps) he had saved some money and could afford to pay for incidental trips to the doctor out of pocket and viewed insurance as a way to finance his risk on unusual things. Yeah, he wasn't "playing fair"....probably in the 1%.... Do you not see all the underlying assumptions out of these few words? He was doing something WRONG. He was DIFFERENT. He wasn't creative, just Dick Cheney like "SNEAKY"... BAD, BAD man for trying to arrange his affairs in the most constructive way for himself and his family. BAD.

    2. "crap catastrophic" coverage. Again, the value judgements abound. What, no tolerance for diversity? You know who -in the insurance world - typically buys "catastrophic" coverage? People like Walt Disney World who will self-finance incidental claims and only involve insurance when it's a unique situation (deductibles typically $1 million+). The HMO lie ("people won't be afraid to go to the doctor because it only costs $20 so they will get ongoing care and catch potentially huge illnesses early, saving millions") has been put to bed. People go to the doctor when they feel like crap; and, a certain percentage go annually just to be checked out - but those folks probably would go no matter HMO, Indemnity, Catastrophic, whatever.

    Sorry, people HAD options before Obamacare; and, many of those options are being taken away...in the name of _______________? I don't know....equal misery? The post stating those two items is incredibly instructive on how the Left thinks...diversity, fairness, equal protection..YEAH!!!!! Do something different ON YOUR OWN? No, siree Bob, you're trying to get away with some crap thing. Shame on you. Assimilate NOW!
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    Who are you, or our government, to tell someone what kind of coverage is crap, and what kind of coverage they should or shouldn't have? They chose the coverage they had, and it was enough for them - but not any more. Maybe they don't want your idea of "real insurance," but their idea was perfectly fine for them. How in the hell do you justify this type of thinking?

    He wasn't trying to "get away" with anything, he was trying to keep the cheap coverage he had personally chosen, and was promised by this President he would be able to do without any changes. As someone said earlier, Liberals claim to be the defenders of "choice," what kind of choice did that guy have? There was none, although, he was promised otherwise. And his fellow Liberals in the comments do nothing to console him but judge for having "craptastic" coverage anyway, and go out of their way to defend the bill.

    What do you have to say to this guy when he says, "I voted for Obama, supported the ACA, and trusted Obama when he promised my coverage wouldn't go up, but that turned out to be completely untrue...?"

    "Tough shit, bro?"
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    Hey, what's a few more socialized trillions masquerading as universal health care among friends ?

    Barry's USA = toilet bowl with flapper in up position.
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    What do you have to say to this guy when he says, "I voted for Obama, supported the ACA, and trusted Obama when he promised my coverage wouldn't go up, but that turned out to be completely untrue...?"

    Thanks for taking one for the team? (well, you and 70 million+/- just like you).
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    Simple framing. Let's turn the above argument into a "conservative argument." Take it away Mitt Romney:

    Those exceptionally high deductible plans lead to medical bankruptcy, which is dumping the cost off on others. As long as we have government enforcing treatment and bankruptcy laws allowing people to avoid debt, an individual's choice of health plans does have an impact on others.
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    I honestly don't care all that much for what Romney said, and it has little to do with the actual point of the original post. The President promised one thing, it didn't happen. No accountability.

    On another note, Mitt Romney is talking about something completely different than what occurred in the OP. I mean, completely different scenarios. It has nothing to do with someone not having any health insurance.
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    And what does any of that have to do with those who do indeed, choose to "pay their own way"?

    Why should they be forced to purchase something they do not use ?

    For the betterment / good of others ?

    To help out and pay some more taxes to support things that other people want ? (USSC Chief Judge Roberts is an idiot).
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    mdgator05 wrote: "Those exceptionally high deductible plans lead to medical bankruptcy"

    Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas/showthread.php?p=6927776#post6927776#ixzz2iO4bbatc

    Do you have anything to back up your claim?

    You did not say "high deductible plan users have a significantly higher rate of medical bankruptcy than low deductible plan users...." (and that's unproven) you said "it LEADS TO medical bankruptcy." I would like to see the proof.

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