The GOP Can't Survive Without the Tea Party

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    The dogma on here is sickening.
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    Wrong. UE is better since he took office.

    The offshoring trend is not new. It really ramped up under Bush.
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:


    Post of the year.
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    The threats of doing it only your way or you are going
    to...insert threat here, against others is the way of the tea party.

    See you at the primary.
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    Wait a minute. You claimed that the economy would be healthier if we had more people. Would it not make sense that it'd be healthier with more immigrants? How can you claim one but not the other?
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    Please state with specificity what the common beliefs [if any] of members of the so-called [and non-existent] Tea Party are.

    Also, state specifically what the beliefs of the members of the non-existent Tea Party are that "non-members" find offensive.

    How many people are in the non-existent Tea Party? What is the % of males and the % of females?

    Who believes in the following:

    1. We should increase the 17 trillion dollar national debt.

    2. The size of the federal govenment should be expanded.

    3. The powers of the federal government should exceed those granted to it by the United States Constitution.

    4. We should all pay more taxes.

    5. The ever increasing government intrusion into our personal lives is a good thing.

    6. There is no problem with passing on a massive and growing debt to our children, grandchildren and future generations.

    7. The national debt can continue to grow without a significant impact on the economy.

    8. Money borrowed will never have to be repaid.

    9. Businesses and people do not have to live within a budget.

    10. The United States does not have to adhere to a budget.

    11. Businesses and families can easily spend far more than they make.

    12. The United States can easily spend trillions more than it has.

    13. We should continue sending billions of dollars to other countries each year.

    11. Congress has the right to exempt its members from ObamaCare despite the fact that Congress passed the law.
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    Why not argue for sterilizing men and women receiving welfare. Same benefit, less cost to society and less baby killing.
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    The genesis of the tea party had several parents.

    1.) A move toward fiscal conservatism and small government that the main stream GOP ostensibly abandoned during the Bush years and the beginning of the Obama years.
    2.) A move away from the social conservatives that wanted to legislate social issues.
    3.) The rise of the "practical" libertarian. (the immigration stances of some tea party members aside)
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    I have had that discussion before. While sterilization is too drastic I've often wondered if there was some viable way to force them to take birth control would our society accept that.
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    Probably not, since some of the same people who want to do something like that freak out whenever birth control/condoms are distributed in public schools, or raise holy hell when legislation mandates birth control stuff be carried on basic insurance plans.
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    Good luck getting any of that..
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    Yeah, let's not pay for Susie's/Joe's birth control but instead support the baby for its life instead. Makes perfect sense to me.
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    Let me put it another way. I don't care if Susie wants to be a whore and I have to help pay for her birth control. I would much rather do that than help raise an unwanted kid for 18 years or more. Not that I mind helping kids but if they are not there then it is a moot point.

    Edited to add: This was meant in the extreme. Many girls have need for birth control that are not whores.
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    Nah, no big problem, we just kill 'em.
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    1. If they had risen during the Bush years (or Reagan for that matter) it would have helped them look a little more issue-oriented than simply partisan. But they didn't.
    2. Hardly.
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    Can you name some examples of tea party politicians that have moved to legislate social issues?
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    The grassroots limited government, fiscal solvency movement we call the Tea Party did form during the Bush administration, it coalesced upon the lightning strike of Bush's profound foolishness to run with the TARP travesty. That was the outrage that pushed us over, after a run of offenses and disappointments. It didn't find its name until Santelli pulled the metaphor on the floor in Chicago, but... what was that, late Jan, early Feb? At the end of months of fury and indignation about the bailout pathos with TARP, then blatant misuse of TARP, the auto-bailout, etc, the end of capitalist outcomes, the birth of "too big to fail". That all predates both Obama's election and inauguration. It is simply a myth, a fabrication from the race-baiting template, to label the Tea Party as a reaction to *him*.
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    Yep.

    Here is a good article the discusses the origin

    http://conservativenewjersey.com/social-issues-and-the-tea-party
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    so the opinions of members of the tea party don't count? it's just whether politicians have introduced legislation?

    Besides, there's no shortage:

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    River beat me to it.

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