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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorstooth, Sep 26, 2013.
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Yes, which is why it so comical to call it capitalist. Government is the only party with the power of force, so when corporation and government comingle, it is always, always, always, the state that ultimately controls the businesses no matter what it might let the business think. Fascism is statism, is authoritarianism. The only spin is that the word "capitalism" even misleadingly appears in the phrase "crony capitalism", i.e. fascism.
As explained above he meant, "and the Nazi references have made their entrance".
That, and race baiting threads are their bread and butter.
Yes to all of this... and that's why I call it 'crony socialism.'
The words "Anarchists" and "Nazis" were used to describe the Tea Party supporters.
Can someone explain how they can be both?
Up to a point I can see how. anarchist can be applied but I just don't see how Nazi fits in there too.
The Libs must be afraid that they are in trouble. Then again they may have completed their journey to The Dark Side of the force.. I say this because the are resorting to the desperation tactics of name calling and demonization.
And they would rather have pennies trickle down to cheap Asian workers than dollars to Americans.
Capitalism is an economic model - not a govt model.
Fascism = authoritarian capitalism.
Communism = authoritarian socialism.
Like it or not, that is how these systems describe themselves and how their practitioners tried to implement these systems.
Additionally, there is no pure capitalism in existence and there never will be... because people will always subvert markets to their advantage... making them progressively less free and less capitalist. A fascist system does this by authoritative edict with corporate leverage, while our system does it by representative edict with corporate leverage... as well as leverage of other interests.
Executives are supposed to speak like statesmen not like thugs.
points out the bastardization of today's Tea Party. Initially it was solely about taxes. Ultra right wingers infiltrated the movement and did what it could to turn it into just another ultra con wack group.
funny thing is...the ultra cons in the movement have bastardized even the items you cited. instead of reducing personal and business taxes---the predominant rhetoric from ultra cons in TP is elimination not reduction of taxes.
in addition, it is easy to say such brilliant things as #1, #2, #3, and some other very vague comments without solutions offered. The implication TP'ers try to make is that to not be TP you are against moms, dads, apple pie, and Chevrolet. Which is hardly truthful. It is simply the same old extremist 'us and them' BS
#6, #7, #8 are knee jerk platform stances which sound fine and dandy but make no real sense. The bottom line is---govt, budget, etc should be financed to whatever level that has the govt doing what the govt is supposed to do. Some of that right now can be indeed parts of govt too large, parts of budget too large...but there is also strong likelihood that some budgets and departments of govt right now are too small and too under budgeted. It is just the sort of platform stances that mark extremists as wack jobs--namely the all or nothing notion which is typically the worst thing possible
FWIW---I believe and support #14 wholeheartedly---tell that to the various groups in the U.S. that are most instrumental in trying to tear that down---ie--Cuban-Americans in S Fla who have been at the forefront of trying to make Spanish an official language in the U.S.
By the way---there is nothing in the wh0le list that is truly emblematic of the Colonial Tea Party movement that had the stance of 'No Taxation without Representation'
Chances are the original Tea Party members in colonial days would spit in the face of today's Tea Party members who have spat on the graves of the original Tea Party.
Tea Partiers are just a dying breed of whites looking to take "their" country back
One where they had more clout and power
There is no Tea Party on the ballot box, they vote Republican, and extremist at that
If it were just about fiscal responsibility I would have no issues, but it's the whole gambit of right wing boogie monsters.
And professional politicians are supposed to act like grownups, not like tantruming children. Boehner and his caucus never got that memo.
funny thing is, the original Boston Tea Party of colonial days had some folk who were black participating in the throwing of Tea into Boston Harbor.
The poster who listed out the platform of today's Tea Party did a fine thing in posting the list of stances that clearly demonstrates they have nothing in common with the original Boston Tea Party of our forefathers in regard to motives and stance and true patriotism demonstrated by our forefathers, as opposed to the pseudo macho/pseudo patriotic crap today's Tea Party spouts.
sadly, today's Tea Party did start out by being solely about 'no taxation without representation' but the ultra cons who infiltrated today's Tea Party movement put an end to that in a hurry.
barack shouldn't be promoting such violence--his people will take him up on it
Prior to Obama it was generally Libertarian folk, Ron Paul supporters....then that guy Rick Santelli used the name in his rant against Obama, and it caught like wild fire with the right wing. Soon after, the same big money backers swooped in and started to point the finger away from the corporate oligarchy the original Tea Party was against, and to the usual right wing spooks.
They are just playing on the same old fears, heightened now by a quick changing world.
Sounds like something directly out of the Communist Manifesto. Did you plagiarize that?
You couldn't possibly believe this, could you?
There are black people in the modern Tea Party as well.
The "future" of what is the question.
The future of your local nursing home?