The charade of Darrell Issa

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    Ferreting out corruption is like eradicating rats from an old building. Sometimes one must strip away the drywall and external veneer to get to the rat hiding places. MD, like the good lefty libbie that you are, you are defending a group that cut their teeth in Chicago. Should I remind you of all the X Chicago and Illinois politicians that are currently being supported by their state's taxpayers....while they remain in Jail? It is how they roll.

    79 Illinois politicians convicted of corruption since 1972. Wonder how many got off or weren't charged?

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/...s-long-legacy-public-corruption/#.UeFmuW2Znq0

    Four of last 7 Governors:

    Rod Blagojevich – Governor from 2002 through 2009, when he became the first Illinois governor in history to be impeached. Convicted of numerous corruption charges in 2011, including allegations that he tried to sell or trade President Barack Obama's old Senate seat.

    George Ryan – Governor from 1999 through 2003. After leaving office, was convicted of racketeering for actions as governor and secretary of state. In November 2007, began serving a 6 1/2 year sentence in federal prison.

    Dan Walker – Governor from 1973-1977. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud and other charges in 1987 related to his business activities after leaving office. Spent about a year and a half in federal prison.

    Otto Kerner – Governor from 1961-1968. Resigned to become judge, then was convicted of bribery related to his tenure as governor. Sentenced to three years in prison.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/30/illinois-governors-in-pri_n_2581182.html


    Illinois Alderman of Chicago, Sandi Jackson (D) pled guilty to one count of filing false tax returns.[8]
    Illinois Comptroller and Treasurer for Dixon Rita Crundwell (D) was arrested for fraud after allegedly embezzling as much as $30 million over many years. The money was used to support a lavish lifestyle and support her horse ranch, the Meri-J.[9]
    Illinois State Representative Derrick Smith (D) was arrested for accepting a $7000 bribe. (2012)[10]
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    Actually, Reagan holds the record for the most convicted members of an administration with 138. How many members of Obama's administration have been been convicted?
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    By Fox? Thousands.
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    It probably should be more. Media is blocking, tackling, holding, clipping and running interference for the regime.
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    Starting to feel bad for the right-wing blowhards. After 8 years of defending one of the worst presidents in American history, they are desperately trying to pin anything and everything on the current one.

    The Obama presidency has been a mixed bag for sure, but the stuff thrown at him in all these Issa investigations has all been to just solidify a narrative that the right believed to begin with. Nothing of substance, no facts, just belief.
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    So all your have is guilt by association? That is a bit pathetic and demonstrates that none of this is actually about facts but rather about preconceived notions and what you want to be true.

    How many Reagan administration members had already been convicted of a crime by the middle of the fifth year of his administration? I wonder why it didn't take so long to ferret out all of that corruption.
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    Issa is a showman and his intended audience loves his circus of pseudo-scandals. The truth is more or less irrelevant.
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    And those are just the OA personnel who took the 5th.
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    When a Pub politician has an affair, commits perjury, solicits a prostitute, embezzles, bribes, whatever, members of the party or party officials run them out of office. When possible corruption is involved, pubs do not block investigation. Perhaps we are held to a higher standard. Hell, democrat politicians lie, steal, cheat, bribe, solicit congressional pages, tempt White House interns, drown women, solicit "special" home mortgages, commit homosexual acts...and the Democratic party does nothing. And the media makes excuses. And the pols take the 5th or stonewall.

    Any further questions? You happen to support a party who believes lying, cheating, stealing justify the end....as long is it is a liberal democrat.

    I will give you guys credit...when Weiner sent pics of his Weenie, he was forced to step down....finally. Now he's your leading candidate for mayor of NYC. Rather Pathetic, wouldn't you agree?
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    David Vitter.
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    Glad you could come up with one. He went to Harvard. I'm guessing his liberal buds and profs brainwashed him into thinking he was "exempt".
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    Both parties are littered with dirtbags.

    Not like John McCain and Newt Gingrich are moral beacons either. Both began affairs with much younger woman and ultimately left their wives while recovering from cancer or a horrifically disfiguring auto accident and the pubs nominated one for President and elected the other as Speaker of the House.

    There's no shortage of dirtbags on either side that got hall passes for their lack of morals so to say one party does it and the other doesn't is just disingenuous and another example of the "do as I say not as I do" partisan bias that's rampant on this board under the past 2 presidents.
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    Remember Dan Burton, who claimed: “No one, regardless of what party they serve, no one, regardless of what branch of government they serve, should be allowed to get away with these alleged sexual improprieties.”
    Of he had a son through an extramarital affair.
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    Tom Hanks from Forrest Gump..."I've got one thing to say about that". BARNEY FRANK
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    We can play ping pong with this all the way back to Thomas Jefferson, which just proves my point.
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    No question. Now be honest with this question, if you can.

    WHICH PARTY IS MOST PROTECTED BY THE MEDIA FOR INDISGRESSIONS?
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    Generally, the Democrats. But based on how my 18 year old daughter approaches media and politics i think things will equalize over the next generation as print journalism and TV become more marginalized.

    NOW YOU BE HONEST, are the parties really any different when it comes to morals or imposing double standards and situational ethics for the sake of political gains?
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    Well Mark Sanford just won reelection to the house, despite leaving his state (and the country) to have an affair without telling anybody while governor. And Republicans reelected him. Rather pathetic, wouldn't you agree?

    David Vitter is considered the leading candidate for Governor in Louisiana and is currently a US Senator from there despite having sex with prostitutes.

    Oliver North still has a job on Fox News and raised over 20 million dollars for a US Senate run.

    John Poindexter was in charge of DARPA for George W. Bush, despite a felony conviction for lying to congress and obstructing a Congressional investigation (I guess he wasn't blocking the investigation through his obstruction since according to you Republicans don't do that).

    Michael Crapo just got a drunk driving charge, despite claiming for years that as a Mormon he did not drink. Just plead guilty to it as well. Are you busy running him out of the party right now?

    So no your entire post is false and you are back to making claims you want to be true, rather than claims that are true.
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    Like I said we could play ping pong back to Jefferson. Both parties are morally bankrupt.

    That's the price of admission.
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    Parties, like corporations, are morally ambivalent organizations. While corporations' have the goal of making as much money as possible for shareholders, only engaging in moral behavior in furtherance of that pursuit, parties have a goal of electing members to office, only engaging in moral behavior in furtherance of that pursuit.

    That is why it is crucial to look at an individual's morality, as if you expect an organization designed with one non-morally based goal in mind, you will likely continue to be disappointed.

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