The Carter Key

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  1. ufgator4ever
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    Point? A great coach can do well with 3 star/ top 15 class talent. A poor coach sometimes loses to Div II teams.
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    :rolleyes: Hope that never happens to us; I'd hate losing to a Div II team.

    As for losing to DI-AA teams, even Saban lost to UAB in 2000 while he was at LSU, and that was just 5 years after UAB had moved up from DI-AA... and UAB has only had a football team since 1991.

    I'd suggest that's even more embarrassing than losing to GSU, who's had a football program since 1923 and has won 6 DI-AA National Championships.
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    Says on Rivals that Georgia has the last visit and he was going to FSU on 24th. I'm not one for reading the tea leaves, but this doesn't look great(!)
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    Yea he's not coming here. We can cross him off the list. He loves Pruitt.
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    You would have to think that if Carter was using logic and looked at the DT's we have in this class he would see it would be a great opportunity for him. Not to mention Florida's ability to put DL in the league over the years.
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    Yes they would. They do it every year.

    Not being negative. Let's just temper our expectations and start looking at Buck prospects in the 2015 class.

    Seriously, how are we going to get back in it for a player who made his official visit three months ago and has his final visit at UGA right before NSD? He and his family have to agree to a home visit. They have to be convinced that Will Muschamp is not a complete moron (most of us haven't been). He has to be convinced that he will get a better education at UF than UGA and that our system is best for him. (the last one is the only one I'm sure of.

    He's from Georgia. They own us for the first time since the eighties.
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    I don't think any expectations need to be tempered. A lot of people seem to believe Carter is already committed or is a lock to Georgia. I'm simply saying that is not true - and it isn't.

    Carter needs a reason to come play for Muschamp? I don't get this kind of argument, and it seems purposefully pessimistic. There have been more D-Lineman to be drafted under Muschamp since he became a coordinator (and subsequently, our coach) than just about anyone in the country. People who don't follow recruiting in depth seem to have a perception that one bad season impacts recruiting more than it does. More than anything, these guys want playing time, they want to become pros, they want to play for big fanbases, and they want to win games. These are some of the best athletes in the world, and they have the confidence of such. Ask ANY single one of the recruits currently committed and ask them if they think Florida will be in the SEC Championship game next year. I wonder what their answer will be?

    I've already said that if I had to guess, that I'd say Carter will likely end up at Georgia. But it isn't a lock yet, and it isn't even close. The same people who were saying we would never flip Holley are now doing the same here. It's an endless cycle of negativity, and it isn't doing the program any favors - despite what you may think.

    Edit: I should add, Strange, that I don't mean to take this all out on you. I realize you weren't trying to be negative, it just comes off that way to me.
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    Don't agree at all. If we were talking about an elite offensive (specifically at the skill positions) prospect, I think you could make a case that Muschamp would have a lot more "selling" to do than he would with an elite prospect on the other side of the ball. Let's be clear on one point: I think the overwhelming majority of these kids want to play pro football, and Muschamp is one of the best defensive minds in the business. Almost all Rivals 100-types believe they'll play at the next level. If Carter wants to play at the next level, which I'm sure he does, Florida is as good a place as any to develop for a defensive talent like him.
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    If they have even a 20% chance of pulling in an elite athlete, they would do it. We likely do not get Carter because Georgia made a slam-dunk hire, but you don't give up because regret hurts worse than rejection.
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    No doubt and that's partially because he knows he has the skill no matter what school he attends. He could go to UCF and still make it to the next level. Hopefully he really wants to play football here. Would be incredible.
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    Maybe the loss of Georgia DL coach will make him lean to Gators now.
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    Not likely, he likes Pruitt a lot more.
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    The "sunshine pumper" label meant to degrade those who are positive about the program is beyond old.
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    Spivey says its 50/50 between the Gators and Georgia.

    No matter what anyone says, this one isn't even close to being over yet. A lot of it is going to be getting him to commit before his OV to Georgia, which probably isn't likely.
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    That's good news given how long ago he visited and how much has happened to both programs. I guess our coaches have done a good job of keeping the lines of communication open. The key will be putting some thoughts into his head before he heads up to Athens that will keep him thinking about the Gators while he's there. The dead period will have started by the time he gets home and there will be no more chances to talk to him unless he initiates them himself. At that point, all there is left to do is fax him an LOI and hope for the best.
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    Over the history of high school football players choosing between UF and UGA, "logic" does not appear to have played a big role in their final decisions.
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    In the SEC? Not so sure about that.
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    Probably likes their engineering school :)
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