Texas passes strict abortion law

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. gatornana

    gatornana Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    23,076
    Likes Received:
    224
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +813
    It's not about winning elections to me....I think I've made it clear where I'm coming from.

    The GOPs persistence in controlling women's healthcare isn't supported by the majority.
  2. AustinGator1

    AustinGator1 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2007
    Messages:
    7,733
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings Received:
    +231
    'Nana I'm sorry for your experience but a doctor making what sounds like a poor decision does not justify where we are with abortions today. Having standards raised at abortion clinics is a good thing for women. Higher standards for when someone can have an abortion is better for children. Win win.

    I don't believe we will ever be able to get some people responsible enough to stop having abortions but we sure don't have to make it so easy either.
  3. SECund2nun

    SECund2nun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2009
    Messages:
    6,481
    Likes Received:
    150
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +811
    This barbaric baby murdering practice needs to be ended by teaching people morals.
  4. toon66

    toon66 VIP Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2007
    Messages:
    6,273
    Likes Received:
    380
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings Received:
    +783
    Tell a liberal that you are pro-abortion. Tell a lib that abortion should promoted and advertised. Watch the reaction.
  5. fredsanford

    fredsanford VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    11,870
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +1,173
    Lots of women have the nerve to not vote pub. They figure why not lose a few to win some elections.
  6. reformedgator

    reformedgator Premium Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,835
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings Received:
    +191
    You are right, but too many have become moralphobic, with morals becoming more subjective.
  7. OB1

    OB1 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2010
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Ratings Received:
    +37
    When looking into the abortion debate you will find that the majority of people support them when the life of the mother is jeopardized by the pregnancy. However, they also believe in personal responsibility and don't think abortion should be used as birth control. The 20 week limit is a non issue, that's 5 months! If you know you have to make a decision, you have 3 months to make it(giving 2 months for figuring things out). Abortion is legal, it's a surgical procedure, the clinics that provide the procedure should be held to the same standards that other facilities that provide surgical procedures.

    While many say this will close the facilities, I disagree, these facilities are businesses. They will have to do some things to comply with the laws, the same way many other businesses have to comply with laws. If there is a demand for these services, businesses will do what is needed, it's all about making money when you boil it all down. You would be hard pressed to find a business that hasn't had to change how they operate to comply with new laws and regulations.

    It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
  8. ga8orman1

    ga8orman1 Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    543
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Ratings Received:
    +35
    Here is a state of play in the 28-nation European Union:

    - AUSTRIA

    Three months of a pregnancy or in case of serious health concerns for the mother or baby.

    - BELGIUM

    Twelve weeks, afterwards in case of serious health concerns for the mother or baby.

    - BULGARIA

    Twelve weeks, beyond that if the life of the mother is at risk, or for severe foetal malformations.

    - CROATIA

    Ten weeks, thereafter for medical reasons or in case of rape.

    - THE CZECH REPUBLIC

    Twelve weeks, after that in case of serious health concerns for the mother or baby or rape.

    - DENMARK

    Twelve weeks. After that the abortion has to be approved by the authorities who take into account exceptional circumstances, like danger to the mother, rape, incest or suspicion of Down's Syndrome.

    - ESTONIA

    Twelve weeks, and beyond that for medical reasons and/or for women younger than 15 or older than 45.

    - FINLAND

    Twelve weeks. A doctor's authorisation is necessary but in practice is systematic. Beyond that health and social authorities decide on a case by case basis.

    - FRANCE

    Twelve weeks, and beyond that for medical reasons.

    - GERMANY

    Abortion in Germany is permitted in the first 12 weeks upon condition of mandatory counselling, during which counsellors will try to dissuade the woman. Afterwards in cases of medical necessity, but not in case of rape.

    - GREECE

    Twelve weeks, beyond that for medical reasons, rape or incest.

    - HUNGARY

    Twelve weeks and up to 18 weeks if the patient is younger than 18, beyond that for medical or social reasons.

    - IRELAND

    Abortion is allowed in circumstances where there is a real and substantial risk to the life of the mother or where an expectant mother is a suicide risk.

    - ITALY

    Twelve weeks for medical or social reasons, beyond for medical reasons only.

    - LATVIA

    Twelve weeks (up to 16 in case of rape) and after that for medical reasons.

    - LITHUANIA

    Twelve weeks, and beyond that on doctors' advice for medical reasons.

    - LUXEMBOURG

    Twelve weeks for social and medical reasons or rape, beyond that for medical reasons.

    - MALTA

    Abortion is completely banned. Women found to be having abortions face from 18 months to three years in prison.

    - NETHERLANDS

    Twenty-four weeks, and beyond for medical reasons. The abortion must take place in one of the 17 abortion clinics or 92 hospitals authorised by the government.

    - POLAND

    Abortion is allowed in case of rape, incest, danger to the life of the mother or the irreversible malformation of the foetus, in the first 12 weeks.

    - PORTUGAL

    Ten weeks on request, and up to 16 weeks in cases of rape. 24 weeks if the child will be born with severe malformations.

    - ROMANIA

    Twelve weeks, afterwards for medical reasons.

    - SLOVAKIA

    Twelve weeks and beyond that for medical reasons or rape.

    - SLOVENIA

    Ten weeks, thereafter for medical reasons.

    - SPAIN

    Twelve weeks, beyond that for medical reasons.

    - SWEDEN

    Eighteen weeks, and beyond that on the authorisation of the health and social services, usually for medical reasons.

    - UNITED KINGDOM

    Twenty-four weeks, and afterwards for medical reasons. In Northern Ireland, the woman's health must be at risk.



    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130712/malta-abortion-ban-the-last-europe
  9. candymanfromgc

    candymanfromgc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    5,308
    Likes Received:
    108
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +296
    What liberal talking head told you that?
  10. g8tr80

    g8tr80 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,178
    Likes Received:
    157
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +835
    Exactly. The pro-abortion crew has dominated the discussion for over 30 years. Now a little compromise is in the works. Good for America.

    Not to worry boys and girls. Abortions will remain legal forever. But now you only have 150 days or so to make your decision and you can only get one in a registered medical facility. I think that's fair.
  11. g8tr80

    g8tr80 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,178
    Likes Received:
    157
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +835
    Abortion mills exist because it is a lucrative business. The later the abortion, the higher the price. There was a reason Gosnell likes to do late term abortions. $5000 a pop. No pun intended.
  12. g8tr80

    g8tr80 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,178
    Likes Received:
    157
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +835
    It will restrict access only if the abortion clinics do not meet new regulations. Not an impossible thing at all. But like all government regulation, it will cut into the bottom line.
  13. g8tr80

    g8tr80 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    7,178
    Likes Received:
    157
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +835
    Wow, I had no idea that we saved the lives of 55 million women. Because we all know only those with medical complications abort.
  14. fredsanford

    fredsanford VIP Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    11,870
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +1,173
    That's like saying WalMart will be fine once they meet a new law that mandates that each store have 23 indoor bathrooms and be 6 stories high.

    It's a ludicrous workaround to close their doors permanently.
  15. austingtr

    austingtr VIP Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2007
    Messages:
    8,899
    Likes Received:
    194
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Ratings Received:
    +465
    The people that oppose this law are the same that don't think anything about partial birth abortions.

    THERE IS NO REASON TO WAIT TO HAVE A FREAKING ABORTION UNTIL THE FETUS WILL FEEL THE PAIN OF HIS/HER MURDER.
  16. JerseyGator01

    JerseyGator01 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    15,120
    Likes Received:
    134
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +589
    Abortion is a "medical" procedure without the facility requirements, even in a strict town like Philly. Liberals love to have it both ways.

    CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!

Share This Page