Tesla banned from selling in NJ and maybe Ohio

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    What would that huge group of mostly useless middlemen do if laws didn't ban direct sales?

    I think this works out for Tesla. People will just buy them where they're available. They won't give in and just look that much more innovative and customer-friendly the more this happens.

    This is how it has been forever for all car manufacturers, BTW.

    And you can buy Apple products at places other than Apple, although typically there's no advantage to doing so.
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    What does it have to do with unions? It appears to be because of opposition from car dealers.

    But, yeah, it doesn't seem close to right.
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    It has nothing to do with unions, you're right. This has been opposed nation-wide by car dealers.
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    this stuff happens all the time. you have beer, wine and liquor distributors who fight really hard against direct sales.
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    I suppose you could argue that they are using their organized, collective power to oppose something bad for their business model, but unless you consider things like the AMA or Chamber of Commerce "unions" in the strictest sense, then this has nothing to do with unions.
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    Didn't Saturn try the same thing?
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    Direct sales? It's been tried a few times, meets enormous opposition because of the ubiquity of car dealers and their sway with state and local politicians. Tough hurdle, honestly.
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    [dreaming of the elimination of current dealership model]

    As nice as it would be for car lots to be filled with cars priced like groceries or t-shirts, I fear that our society would crumble if suddenly every car salesman was out of a job.
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    No, I thought Saturn owned the dealerships. I could be mistaken though.
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    Saturn was "no haggle" but they were still dealerships. GM would hypothetically set the price and punish dealers that didn't follow the rules though.
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    Seems like restraint of trade and smug protectionism. We don't worry about national retailers and restaurant chains that operate company stores...why should it be different for car sales?
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    Its basically a matter of established political access and power. I bet it would be hard to find a state or federal congressman without a car dealer as a reliable/big donor. Those guys are the big kahunas of even the smallest or least populated districts.
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    Did the supposed party that likes to champion capitalism , free markets, and letting the market decide, strike again?
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    States can legally do this? Man that is just straight-up commie/union bull crap.
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    Straight up commie/union bull crap in Texas and Arizona?

    Edit: btw, it occurs to me how awesome the title of this thread is "New Jersey and maybe Ohio", but let's not mention those reddest of red states who have already blocked Tesla, Arizona and Texas.

    After The New Jersey Ban, Here's Where Tesla Can (And Cannot) Sell Its Cars

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    The reason for this is warranty and service. Years ago before people knew how to fix tthese cars, only the manufacturer knew how to fix the things.
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    That might be a good reason, you buy it, it breaks and you can't find a repair shop for 700 miles.

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