Tell me why again we are buying Russian made helicopters for use in Afghanistan??

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    If this has been covered in here before, then just ignore--but I don't recall seeing anything about this or even hearing about it until this evening when I heard a discussion briefly on the radio.

    Why is our Defense Dept spending $1Billion for the US Army for Russian made helos while we have American factories needing work??? Not to mention propping up Russia's economy?

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...e-dept-sticking-with-russian-helicopter-deal/

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/04/05/US-to-buy-Russian-helicopters/UPI-31971365168951/

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...p-buying-russian-helicopters-carter-says.html
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    Because the leadership doesn't want U.S. Soldiers flying U.S. Blackhawks filled with ANA Soldiers. The leadership wants ANA pilots flying the Russian helicopters. Remember no matter what the president has said we will begin drawing down in 2014.
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    Multiple reasons: the Russian helicopters are cheaper and better-suited to the region and the needs of the Afghan military going forward. Blackhawks are excellent for many roles, but don't carry as much payload or troops as the Russian helicopters here do. We have US helicopters that match or exceed the Russian helicopters (Chinooks and the CH-53s), but they are more expensive and most of the current variants in production are upgraded models with technology we may not want the Afghans using.

    Additionally, giving the Russians the order here is a nice quid pro quo for when we want them to support us on more important issues (like Syria or Iran). Such is geopolitics sometimes.
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    Because the Russians were so successful there?
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    Because John J. Rambo has retired, and there is no further threat to the Ruskies or their choppers.
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    Tell me again why we're in Afghanistan.
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    For all that is sacred, please let no one here rise to this bait. Just let it sit there on the hook.
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    Although the quote below concerns the purchase of Mi17s by Thailand in 2008, not the recent purchase for Afghanistan, It explains the rationale for the recent decision to purchase the Mi17s rather than US produced Black Hawks.
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    I don't want that country running loose (soon they'll be on their own) with our technology i.e., helos.
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    3 for the price of 1? Given the cost, maybe we should be buying Russian helicopters for ourselves. ;)
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    They're two different helicopters and are designed to different missions.

    You can buy 3 Ford Rangers for the cost of 1 F-450--but both are trucks.
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    And we can keep the Russian people with jobs while we keep our people on unemployment, food stamps, welfare, free cell phones, housing allowance etc. Very good trade off should do more of it.
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    to protect American citizens from terrorists :grin: :no:
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    We all know there's never been any terrorists in Afghanistan that meant us any harm.
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    I don't approve of most of the welfare state any more than you do...but that doesn't exactly mean buying the Russian helicopters here was the wrong decision.

    Again, they were the cheaper option and the one that fit the needs better.
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    Sorry but no way should we be buying military weapons from a foreign country. Our tax dollars should remain in the US if at all possible even if we have to pay a little more
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    We're not buying them for our own use, we're buying them for Afghanistan. It's one example of the hundreds of different types of aid we've given them. And on most stuff, they buy American.

    On this particular thing, it was far cheaper to buy the Russian helicopters. And if that purchase makes the Afghan army more self-sufficient, then it's a cheap deal.
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    Cheap is not always the best way to go.

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