Teacher has Sex with 10 Year Old

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  1. GatorBen
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    The statute establishing the public education system doesn't apply to private schools because their teachers aren't unionized? Think this through again for a minute, couldn't it POSSIBLY be the case that the public education code doesn't apply to private schools because they aren't public schools?

    No, that's too obvious, must be those dirty unions. :roll:

    (I'm no fan of public unions, but lets not set logic completely aside here.)
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    I believe you answered the question. The only thing protecting this teacher is the union. If this was a private school the teacher wouldn't have the same beneficial treatment. This has to do with unions although you are hiding behind the word legislate. Just an fyi that the legislature and unions in this area of the country have been in bed for a long time. I'm not sure you know how things work up here.
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    It never occurred to you that the reason I'm willing to jump into NY threads just might be because I used to live in the city? :wink:

    I'm just a little less eager to jump at the throat of conservative buzz words than you are. I fully admitted that the union is a big part of the reason this statute got passed in the first place, my point is that this guy isn't still employed because the nefarious union is protecting him specifically, he's still employed because it's illegal for the school to fire him.
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    You're either purposely being disingenuous or really naive. Who lobbied for the education code to be enacted? Unions maybe? Ya think? Next step, private school teachers aren't unionized. Gosh, could there be a connection?
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    In all likelihood because the union drafted the text of the law on behalf of politicians with pockets full of union money.
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    Well, they probably didn't lobby for the education code to be enacted since it's what created the public school system to start with. But I got what you mean, and I've already said that's probably the case.

    But it's not the case that the law doesn't apply to private school teachers because they aren't unionized, it doesn't apply because the state doesn't have the regulatory authority to make it applicable (in fact if they did I'd venture to guess that they probably would, unionized or not).
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    Ben: we get it. But it's still because of the union influences that allowed the law to protect him, that gives rise to the problem. You keep trying to deflect form that real problem,which is the public employee unions. They should not have the ability to bargain collectively against the general public. Like it or not, the public employees, in my opinion at least, should be held to even a higher standard in those in the private sector in similar positions. This is ass abckwards.
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    Collective bargaining isn't the issue (collective bargaining didn't do this). Legislative influence (aka lobbying) may well have.
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    Aren't unions just like organized crime? They even intimidate with their payed thugs just like the mafia.
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    And all union members have a healthy portion of their union dues used for lobbying. Wow, you're really obfuscating on this.
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    Their dues go into Dems reelection campaign coffers, which is worse. They own the Dem politicians.
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    the unions run new york--the politicians stay in their pocket or don't get reelected. the system is corrupt to the core.
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    Was that so hard? Could it have something to do with a union contract?
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    Reagan and Bush 1 were in a union at one time or another...Reagan was the first president to have a lifelong membership to the AFL-CIO.

    Blaming an entire group based on the acts of one, is what it is.
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    So was I and many others on here, and your point being?
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    Figured you could get the point without help...
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    Unions are not what they once were, hence the all time low membership
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    Jobs aren't either, and we all know buying from China is so much better than having people buying homes and cars here.
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    Unions did a damn good job of chasing jobs out of the north
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    1, public employees are guaranteed due process. Especially those with tenure
    2. What it sounds like a number of people are advocating is that a private school does not need due process to terminate a teacher, etc. Yet many of you were outraged regarding the woman working at a Catholic school who was terminated because of her ex stalking her.

    3. My sister is a teacher in NYC. She is also a union member. I'll be checking with her regarding details. Prior to becoming a teacher she was a NYC police officer. So she has sources within the schools as well as police force.

    4. With any luck, the guy will be found guilty and tossed in prison as a child molester/pedophile. And put in the general prison pop so he can be routinely sodomized.

    5. There is no lower life-form(as far as prisoners are concerned than a child molester/pedophile. On the prison heirarchy they are an even more endangered species than snitches, or police officers doing time for a crime)

    Seems there is no pleasing some on this board---you cry foul because the teacher fired from a catholic school without due process. And now you are crying foul because due process is being followed in a public school.

    So what do you think there should be when it comes to discipline in schools regarding employees---
    due process
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    no due process/vigilantism
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