STUDENTS MASSACRED Up to 50 dead in terror attack on Nigeria college

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    As long as Muslims remain about 1% of the population, even if they do super-well at "helping themselves," not much is going to break through to widespread viewing.
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    Duh! It is not the Muslims that caused this it is the "GUNS" that caused it.:hairy:
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    Sure I can because they don't do a plausible job speaking out by any means. Your argument of finding from some hole on the internet to dig up an article doesn't prove they criticize the extremists to an acceptable level that gets to the MSM media. They simply fear the retaliation and I think you know this.
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    Do you think you can, say, walk into ABC studios and demand air time?

    I mean even when they do speak out and have a stage, nobody cares (or it doesn't count).

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    Fixed it for you, bob...
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    And OBOB's point takes yet another's severe hit...
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    Except that isn't the point I was making. Like, ever. You're not doing too well here in the reading comprehension category, Dave.
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    I am comforted in knowing that such generalized, lazy ignorance is the exception and not the rule.

    But it's still truly sad there are people that think this way.
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    And if you want one on the Al Jazeera America page, here you go:

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/29/dozens-killed-inattackonnigeriancollege.html

    Perhaps you missed it since they posted a story about it at 8 AM yesterday before Drudge could bring it to Moc's attention, and Moc could subsequently undertake his mission to alert the board about everything that is currently on Drudge's home page.
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    It also isn't on the front page of:

    Fox News
    NY Times
    CNN
    BBC

    But that fact belies the insinuation that it's some sort of Islamic coverup and not indicative of the news cycle.

    Some sad stuff in here.
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    Did I miss the cover up part? I don't think it's a cover up-more that either Muslims aren't being vocal enough or (more likely after the links presented here, for example) that the MSM is not giving this enough coverage to show the change that is taking place.
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    What was I thinking? Muslims killing a crapload of people in a brutal fashion, just isn't big news to an Islamic run organization anymore. You were correct though, it did appear 3 pages after the tropical storm and pussy riot stories.
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    Which, of course, is why a story about the Kenyan mall attack, "Dozens killed in latest wave of Baghdad bombings," "Bomb blast kills dozens at busy Pakistan market," and "Dozens dead after bomb hits Shia mosque near Baghdad" all appear in the first two pages of their website?
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    Aaaaah, and despite what you wrote above, all of which took place within the last week, many on here argue that there is no problem in Islam. It's freakin' mindboggling.
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    You don't appreciate nuance if you think "many on here argue that there is no problem in Islam."

    Many on here argue that Islam itself isn't inherently problematic? Certainly, and I'm prominently among them. But that isn't the same thing as "no problem in Islam."
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    I think the alleged non-violent Muslims (the ones who have not committed any act of violence) are accountable to a degree for their religion and for those who act in the name of their religion, and that is unlike the equivalency your other syllogism proposed (condensed: all S is not P). And that is because we are indeed talking violence, terrorism, murder, torture, assassinations, and jihad revenge against infidels, all justified by the Muslim holy books.

    Note that I did not say the non-violent folk were responsible for the violence of others committed in their common religion's name, but only accountable to a degree; however I believe that degree to be significant one.

    It is not enough anymore to speak out against violence if you are non-violent Muslim; if you are a Muslim anywhere in the world, you need to be taking some kind of powerful, affirmative action, beginning with the public renouncement of all violence in the name of Islam, Allah, or Mohammed, followed by e.g., public and / or private advocacy, political action, organization efforts, or infiltrating and providing confidential information.

    If the alleged non-violent, peaceful, moderate Muslims were (are) really in favor of living in peace, worshiping life, and denouncing a mentality and culture of death (jihad; god hates infidels and wants them dead; you get great personal rewards in heaven if you carry out acts of violence, and the bigger the better; etc.), you would not be seeing heads of Islamic states tacitly - or overtly - advocating, approving and / or tolerating jihadist activities with a wink and nod, and almost with a smirk on their face at times.

    Instead, you would see a WORLDWIDE movement towards a sweeping agreement, not only condemning these kinds of acts, but inviting and calling together all alleged Islamic heads of state, holy men, leaders, theologians, teachers and preachers to specifically and officially RENOUNCE - once and for all - each and every part of the Quran, Hadith, and any other work that could possibly encourage jihadist killing in the name of god, glorify death, promote suicide and murder, advocate and glorifies torture, or in any way justifies any such thing.

    That is how ALL MUSLIMS everywhere are accountable for the violent acts their brother and sister Muslims are doing, in the name of their god. When are they going to step up and really do something about it ? Renouncement was an OK first step and worked somewhat in the past, but that doesn't work anymore.

    So where is the International Association of Muslims for Peace Organization to be found ? The latest Hajj-Aid concert for world peace, healing, and the end of Muslim violence ? The Muslim Relief Fund to help random victims of Muslim violence ?



    Here is what I posted on a similar thread:

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    The "cover-up" is in the WH and it starts with Obama not calling these radical Islamic terrorists what they truly are... Muslim/Islamic terrorists. The perfect example of Obama's idiocy is calling the Fort Hook killer's rampage "work place related deaths." Thank GOD that Islamic terrorist jacka$$ was sentenced to death by the Army for his terrorist acts of murder in Fort Hood Texas.
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    We have Westboro who has what, 500 members? Then we have 10% of Muslims who support radical Islam.

    Unfortunately that's 300 million worldwide. Don't see the comparison.

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