States most and least dependent on federal govt

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    I was talking about the greed of the unions, not the "greed" inherent in capitalistic companies.

    Even the accidents that Texas and the Gulf Coast has had recently pale in comparison to what was going on in the 1940's and 50's, and even the 60's. Dow Chemical's Texas plant (the largest in the U.S., built mainly in the 1940's - 1960's) had over 250 deaths in a single year in its early years of construction. There were no explosions, just construction. You would probably have to go back more than a decade and include every chemical plant and refinery in Texas and Louisiana to get anywhere near 250 fatalities. The Cuyahoga River in Ohio was so polluted with chemicals in the 1960's that it routinely caught fire. The U.S. doesn't have anything like that now. Most of the most serious Superfund sites and major toxic waste disasters in the U.S. (Love Canal, etc.) were created in the 1950's and 1960's. The Clean Air Act and RCRA in the 1970's were the main driving forces to clean up the chemical industry. The EPA and Congress have not done anything nearly as productive as those two pieces of legislation since then.
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    lmao!!!!!! and there's another one! 'simple mind'. 'more mature'
    and the hits keep coming. how come dave won't come around and defend me against such heinous insults?
    too funny.
    is there anyway you guys can respond without the condescending bull crap?
    yeah, there's no such thing as a republican 'boondoggle'
    sure.


    and you're right. there ARE no records of black market transactions, therefore, you are just spouting made up BS, not facts,
    you're proving nothing by your condescension, but lacking the facts to back up your arguments.
    you're just trying to divert attention, away from the one fact we have here: that you're just using your imagination. shoot, don't you even have a link to that 'fave story of yours'?
    come back when you have a few of those things we like to call 'facts'
    is it any wonder that i feel forced to respond to crap like this with 'pictograms'

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    the post above that wasn't posted in invisible ink, so i notice you were using 'boondoggle'. who cares WHAT post of your i find it in, that wasn't the point
    smh. you guys and the clever (you think) ways you have to get out of answering anything.
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    interesting article

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal...dents-should-be-seeing-red/?intcmp=fbfeatures

    Ever feel like no matter how hard you- and possibly your spouse- work, you never seem to get your head above water financially? You know you need to save for retirement but can't because there’s not much left over after you pay your expenses each month. And, no, you don’t splurge on choca-mocha soy lattes every day or have a shoe-buying addiction.

    Well, maybe it’s not your spending habits at all.

    Maybe it’s because of where you live.

    WalletHub.com, a website that provides financial tools for consumers and small business owners, compared the complex and sometimes bizarre array of state and local taxes that residents face across the country. One surprising conclusion: politics matter. If you live in a state that tends to vote “Democrat” in national elections, on average, your total state and local tax bill will be more than one-third higher than someone who lives in a Republican-leaning state
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    So simple an explanation, yet so difficult for the liberals to comprehend...

    That, or they just REFUSE to accept this simple fact because they have been so wrong for so long that they don't know any better.
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    Think that might be because the Democratic states are paying their own bills while the Republican states are more likely to depend on the feds to do it?
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    maybe the pub controlled states just need to cut their spending
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    66.5 % of Idaho is owned by the federal government.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_economy

    Bam!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

    Boom!!!

    Good Lord, that was easy. Taking you down a peg is like shooting fish in a barrel. Wikipedia estimates the black market in the U.S. at $2 trillion a year, and the U.S. economy at $17 trillion. That gives us approximately 12% of the U.S. economy is the black market. Questions?

    And I never claimed that there weren't any republican boondoggles. Ted Steven's bridge to nowhere was one. As a general policy, republicans are against boondoggles, whereas democrats tend to be more open-minded about them. To a democrat, any gov't spending is good spending, and any gov't attempts to NOT spend money is bad spending, or waste. We learned this during the last government stoppage, when the liberal media told us the gov't "wasted" something like $24 billion by not spending it.

    You have been dominated and humiliated. Come back when you grow up and are ready to have grown-up discussions.
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    cut the spending or up the taxes. either way, pay more of your own bill rather than expecting others to pay it for you. you know, while claiming to be the makers and accusing everyone else of being the takers.
    Kind of ridiculous,don't you think?
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    but isn't that what you libs believe in river-someone else paying your way?
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    given that you've been staring at a bunch of info on how conservatives states are the ones having others pay, that's kind of silly comment, don't you think?
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    You can't argue facts with someone who relies on emotions and opinion for the basis of their views. Facts just get in the way and are to be ignored it they don't fit her latest fictional diatribe...
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    It is what libs want too is it not
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    You are correct of course but I fear you are simply urinating into the perceptible natural movement of the air with this one. Loves to read her own posts, thinking she is clever, and ignoring any facts that don't fit her agenda. Any facts she stumbles across are usually presented by river or jrd and piggybacked on by her. She represents the low information voter that helped put a dangerous amateur in the White House twice.
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    not me.
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    Interesting article:

    http://news.yahoo.com/party-rich-congress-democrats-040228270--election.html

    Democrats are the party of the rich. They represent the wealthiest districts in the nation. They pretend to represent poor people and give poor people a chance in America, but their ill-conceived programs only force them to stay in poverty. They also represent unions that haven't finished sucking the last drops of blood out of the companies they feed on.

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