State Department Delays Decision on XL ...again

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    goodie for railroads, especially for those owned by uncle warren

    http://news.msn.com/us/us-delays-review-of-keystone-xl-pipeline

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department is giving federal agencies more time to review the Keystone XL pipeline before deciding whether to issue a permit.

    That could push a decision about the controversial oil pipeline until after the midterm elections in November.

    The State Department is citing a recent decision by a Nebraska judge that overturned a state law that allowed the pipeline's path through the state. The State Department says that created uncertainty and ongoing litigation.

    The government is not saying how much longer the review will take. But it says the process isn't starting over.
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    You do know that this delay is due to virulent opposition to the pipeline from conservative tea bragger Nebraska ranchers, whose ranches the pipeline would traverse

    Don't cha????
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    what is your fascination with the word teabagger?, you do realize that most conservatives aren't "teabaggers"? doncha?
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    Not obsessed.

    In any event most (ok all) tea baggers are conservatives so sometimes I confuse the two.

    My bad.
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    See you didn't dispute the Nebraska rancher bit. Good on you....
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    Could you be more of a jerk. I am sure you know what a tea bagger is, that's why you call members of the tea party that. Perhaps your an expert at it , or just like insulting people who have different beliefs than you . Does that make you a racist, a bigot, or a homophobe?You really don't have to be a jerk. I am not a pub or a member of the tea party just think you are being an ass. Debating facts and not name calling is a better away to go every time. Otherwise you seem like a simpleton, and I'm not calling you these names just stating for a fact that you are acting like a jerk.
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    Whatever. I admit I do find a perverse delight in tying conservatives and tea baggers together (there are no liberal tea party types that I know of)

    In any event strike the tea bagger reference from my first post. The fact still stands keystone is being delayed due to conservative opposition.
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    three ranchers, funded by Bold Nebraska, which is funded by Buffett partner and confidante

    http://www.pahomepage.com/story/d/s...n-nebraska-oppos/24604/VVgM4KvvnU20AJ0B2ze_iQ

    three ranchers..backed and paid for by Bold Nebraska, which is funded by Buffett investor, confidante..the same guy that stands to make 100's of millions transporting oil by rail.


    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011...e_keystone_pipeline_and_crony_capitalism.html

    These, however, are merely the "useful idiots" in the process, and not the actual players. I mentioned BOLD Nebraska earlier. This group is funded almost entirely by Dick Holland, who has been a close friend and business associate of Warren Buffett since the 1960s.
    Holland was an original investor in Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway, and the two have remained close friends ever since. Buffett and Holland also share a similar political philosophy, both being liberal Democrats, with Holland giving exclusively to the Democratic Party. So why does this matter? It potentially answers a few questions about the recent behavior of Buffett and Obama, and perhaps the real reason behind the Nebraska-centric animus toward the pipeline.
    A year after the election of Obama, Warren Buffett bought a giant railroad, the
    Burlington Northern Santa Fe. The BNSF has more than 32,000 miles of track and right-of-way in this nation, running from the west coast and through the agricultural heartland of America. It is also hauls coal from the mines in Montana and Wyoming and is the railroad with the best existing north-south infrastructure. In fact, it's quite well-situated to perform precisely the task for which TransCanada has proposed to build a pipeline.
    Should the pipeline fail, the oil will still be extracted, but it will
    then be transported by rail, and Mr. Buffett, thanks to the efforts of his friend Mr. Holland, will be uniquely situated to derive a fortune from that business, as well as enhance the value of his holdings in Conoco-Phillips petroleum. Is it possible that Warren Buffett's assistance to Obama in both policy and public relations lately may be his way of trying to tip the regulatory scales in his favor? After all, nothing says "I love you" to a Democrat better than a public plea for more taxes
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    Buffet is perhaps the ultimate conservative investor along with bill gates kudos to the regressive opposition in this case at least.
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    I find it hard to believe that ranching and an oil pipeline cannot co-exist in the same prairie land. It seems like crossing for the animals could be accomodated, and buffer zones for the pipeline could be established. There is plenty of land available for both activities. It's not like Nebraska is full of people and cities that have to be moved.
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    KXL is a bad deal and should be denied. But it will eventually succeed, and likely from envrio-O himself. He has no elections left to win and the juice will push this through. There is the possibility that it might have to wait until 2017 when an even more rent-to-own POTUS is installed.
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    Pipe is underground. Literally thousands of miles of much older pipelines already cross through the aquifer they are crying about.
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    Why is it a bad deal? Canadian oil is going to be recovered and shipped to market. What is the safest most economical way for that to happen?
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    Honestly, if Romney had that "geopolitical adversary" question back, he should have just tilted his head and jerked his thumb at the other guy next to him. Bloody enviro-Luddites.
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    Yeah, right. It has nothing to do with the Environmental, Climate Change, Alternative Energy lobby, does it. And now Demos up for reelection in affected states are calling Obama's decision "Irresponsible".

    correct term is STUPID.

    The same oil is now being transported by rail and truck .
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    It's a war over transportation. Environmental issues is only a cover for the Lofo voters. The lemmings, of which they are legion.

    Buffet bought a broke dick railroad and is now making billions. He is a brilliant, brilliant man with much political influence. He plays behind the scenes and is a very nice friend to have. Money is power.
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    Buffet and Gates transcend politics. They pony up and influence the team that affords them the best deal. Right now, Buffet has Barry and his cronies in his back pocket. That will run its course when Warren is onto his next best deal. The guy welds so much financial power it is rediculous - and a bit dangerous. His source of influence in unlimited.
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    Read my cappysocialism thread. My reasonable proposals would curb the power of buffet and his ilk.
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    Build a leaky pipe to pump peanut butter oil across your back yard? Canada can construct their own pipes. Since it's going to make it to market anyway, the end result will be the same. Except the toxic goop will be streaming through pipes -- that will leak, and probably break -- in Canadians' back yards and public lands. We'll avoid the costs of mitigating the damage to aquifers and soil. Canada should do that too, IMO. But maybe they aren't concerned with such matters.

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    This idea that "it's going to happen anyway, just take it" is pretty ludicrous, isn't it? There are any number of things that happen whether you want them to or not, but I don't think you should automatically accept them all, and certainly not participate in them. Sometimes you have to go all Andy Dufresne on some bros.
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    Yep, there is not a day that goes by where the headlines are not talking about one of our leaky oil and natural gas pipelines. And we only have a couple.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=US ...ons%2Fngpipeline%2FcompressorMap.html;907;590

    Do you believe your own bunk?
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