Sold to the highest bidder

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  1. g8orbill
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    http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/site/article/obamacare_sold_to_the_highest_bidder/

    from the piece:

    The Affordable Care Act is like the television show Storage Wars, where unclaimed items in storage lockers are auctioned off after a quick peek through the door. People bid top dollar and hope for the best. Some find a goldmine, but the unseasoned bidders usually receive a Pandora’s Box.

    Let’s look at some of the winners. The Center for Public Policy, a non-partisan public interest think tank in Washington D.C., estimated that $120 million was spent lobbying for health reform. Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) alone spent $26 million lobbying for Obamacare in 2009. And PhRMA has spent well over $100 million on ad campaigns promoting healthcare reform legislation.

    Upon passage of the bill, the stocks of some of the largest health insurers, including Cigna, UnitedHealth Group,WellPoint,and Aetna stocks climbed. Major makers of electronic health records (EHR) systems lobbied hard, locking out smaller competitors. Chicago-based Allscripts Healthcare Solutions former CEO Glen Tullman, who had served as health technology adviser to Obama’s presidential campaign in 2008, made more than $200,000 in contributions to the campaign, and was frequent guest at the White House during 2009. With some nudging from the Stimulus mandate for EHRs, annual sales of Allscripts more than doubled from $548 million in 2009 to $1.44 billion in 2012. Cerner, another software purveyor, spent $400,000 lobbying for EHR. During the same three-year period, sales rose 60 percent.

    Of course, AARP’s CEO, Barry Rand, wrote that the ACA was “vital” for the nation’s seniors. This makes no sense when the ACA in fact cut a half a billion dollars from the popular Medicare Advantage program. It seems the ACA’s passage was vital to AARP’s insurance Medi-gap insurance products – which people with Medicare Advantage do not need.
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    the Center for Public Policy may describe itself as non-partisan.....but it hardly is.

    Besides, with your preference for businesses and business practices I'd think you'd approve of things being sold to highest bidder. Isn't that common business practice? Isn't that how things are done between the govt(or gubment if you will) and various industries over the years(military, etc)?
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    Selling to the highest bidder is fine, but selling to the people, congress and senate a pack of LIES to pass it is not ok.
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    "sold out" is not the same as "sold to". We were "sold out" as a nation. It is a math thing.
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    Isn't the US Government supposed to be a low-bid organization?
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    Too bad Electronic medical records just slow down providers thus less time to see patients, so slower Docs and fewer taking medicare patients.

    I'm sure it will help access to care.

    Look to more Docs preferring cash payments, a two tiered system.
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    The dirty little not so secret is that there would NEVER be any healthcare reform in the US unless the interest groups received some goodies. It's distasteful, but we have always had government by the highest bidder and will unless a future Supreme Court decides that campaign contributions are not a form of free speech, apparently based on the principle that since money talks it is a form speech and thus is entitled to the protection of the First Amendment. Speaking of payoffs, anyone remember the Medicare Part D (prescription benefit) legislation? Under the legislation Medicare was specifically prohibited from negotiating drug prices even though private insurers, state and local governments and even the VA were negotiating prescription drug prices prior to enactment of the legislation. In the case of Medicare Part D, the payments were almost direct bribes to specific individuals rather campaign contributions.

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    At one time it was.
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    What exactly was being sold?
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    The right to be the ones selling a product the GOV mandates you buy.....
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    So how does Obama figure into this? Does this strengthen the case for him being a commie, a socialist, or a corporatist?
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    LOL. That is great example, though there are countless others, as to why America the Beautiful has become absolutely and completely America the Screwed.

    Being 71 years old, one of my last wishes is that I will die of natural causes before I have to watch this once great country finally die by slow and sure suicide. I think it's safe to say that I'll be gone first, as this country should hang on for a few more decades, but, God, it's not going to be pretty.
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    He's the worst kind a socialist when it comes to you and me, and a corporatist when it comes to his own wealth. But often that's how the leaders of socialist/commie countries are the resources go to the "beloved leader" to ensure their comfort while they lord over the masses.
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    "Unfortunately", as long as we still place a strong value on freedom of expression... on freedom in general... money contributions will be as much a legitimate exercise thereof as burning a flag or picketing a business.
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    This is how it normally works.
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    So is this communism and a boon to big business?
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    It's a boon to big government and the freeloaders.
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    did you read the story?
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    Yep... what's your question?
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    I just thought you might realize that the point of an opinion piece claiming that the ACA benefited big businesses might be that the ACA benefited big businesses.

    And, yeah, it's silly to claim that the Center for Public Policy is non-partisan when the group describes itself as conservative.

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