So who voted to allow poor children to starve?

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    Actually, malnourishment and obesity are not mutually exclusive. Indeed, obesity is often caused by malnourishment.

    http://healthdecide.orcahealth.com/2012/10/03/the-obesity-and-malnutrition-paradox/
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    Are you seriously going to attempt to compare today's economic situation with a time of plenty during the Clinton years? We have far more people who need this service, so we should be adding to it, not subtracting from it.
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    Is it possible that people in this country have more than enough opportunity to find some way to feed themselves, even despite a relatively small cut to these programs?

    Do you know the context of, "the poor will always be with us?" The circumstances that provoke Jesus to say this? If you did, you might realize that it actually doesn't help your argument at all.
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    Ah, this explains everything. You don't have a clue about malnutrition. A diet highs in carbs is always deficient in essential nutrients, so a person can be undernourished and fat at the same time.
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    They choose to eat those foods. No one is forcing them to eat unhealthily. Are healthy foods more expensive? They can be - it depends, there are ways to eat cheaply and healthily if people took the time to try.
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    Even children born to dysfunctional parents?

    We had this debate yesterday on the Panera Bread CEO thread.

    There are million of kids, not earning income, that live on SNAP.
    What about them?


    And since you feel like preaching Christianity to us....

    Did Jesus want you to ensure that we have as many poor as possible or to actually try to help people in poverty?

    The are few things said in here that actually bother me.....


    That final comment by you is one of them. :sick:
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    I'm not quite sure that your premise of availability of choice is necessarily correct.

    http://apps.ams.usda.gov/fooddeserts/foodDeserts.aspx
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    Ever heard of a food desert?


    You are truly clueless on this topic of food availability.
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    I am glad they listed those names so I know how to thank for representing us working people.
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    I didn't preach anything. Do you even read the threads? Gatorstooth is the one who brought up bible verses and Christianity within this thread. I'm merely responding.

    I shouldn't even respond to anything else since you refuse to respond to half of the things I direct towards you anyhow, but I will anyway.

    There are many ways for children who have dysfunctional parents to get get food in some way. There's literally a myriad of ways. Better than anywhere on this planet most likely.

    As far as your question about Jesus, why don't you go and read the small story where Jesus says, "...the poor will always be with us?" Let me know what you think he means when he says that.
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    If you can't abort 'em, then starve 'em, I always say.
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    What exactly is a comment like this supposed to mean? Why should I even respond to stuff like this? What's the point in even saying that?
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    :laugh:

    On another slightly tangential note:

    I consider myself somewhat knowledgable about politics, but have yet to figure out what party denotes itself by the letter "T." ;)
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    Yes, that's one of the more abused verses by conservatives. However, you need to read all of it.
    Mark 14:7
    7 For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want, you can do good for them. But you will not always have me.
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    It's what they can afford. When your funds are limited you find you can't afford fish, chicken, or fresh fruits and vegetables.
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    There is a special place for people like you. I think it's the fourth circle of Hell.
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    Since you're so insistent on bringing it up - The full story, my friend. A disciple criticizes a woman for spending her money on expensive oils instead of using it to help poor people, hence, Jesus said what he said. It's really pretty obvious what he meant. There's always going to be someone out there begging for something, there's always going to be people in every single society, and you can't fix and save them all. Otherwise, he probably would have said, "yeah seriously, why the heck did you spend that money on me when you could have given it to people in the streets?" But he doesn't. Do what you can and when you can, but he doesn't say anything about advocating for a government sanctioned charity event. He says you, individually. You have no idea how many of these people give to charitable organizations on their own time.

    Besides poor people back then are hardly comparable to poor people within this country.

    Still none of you answer my original question - unbelievable. I guess I shouldn't expect more on here.
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    I think he's just saying you shouldn't speak to things you have no knowledge about.
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    There are many ways but a couple of million rely on SNAP....
    That data was presented, if you don't want to believe it that's your problem.

    Please show us the data that says these kids whose parents are dead, drug addicted, left abandoned, left homeless at elementary school age know how to go through the system and are getting help.


    No one denies the poor will always be with us....


    Jesus wasn't asking you to turn your back on them to ensure that fact.


    Like I said, the conservative issue is overspending, and cutting that program to zero wouldn't solve that problem....so all you're doing is spreading the suffering.

    How about cutting the weapons of war if you want to follow Jesus's example?

    Cause not feeding the poor wasn't Jesus's example for you to live your life by.
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    This verse has been used by some from time to time as an excuse for not taking care of the needy when it's not convenient to do so. Sometimes we need to put ourselves out to do what needs to be done. Like the Good Samaritan.

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