Snowden's Options Dwindle

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    Those on TH cheering on perceived slights toward Obama and American power must be disappointed, though they can still hope Venezuela will represent their hopes.

    "Reuters) - Countries in Latin America, Asia and Europe spurned asylum requests by Edward Snowden on Tuesday, despite a call by Venezuela for the world to protect the former U.S. spy agency contractor wanted by Washington for espionage.

    Snowden, who revealed secret U.S. electronic surveillance programs, has applied for political asylum in more than a dozen countries in his search for safety from prosecution in the United States.

    The 30-year-old American is in legal limbo in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, unable to fly out because he has no legal travel documents and also has no Russian visa to leave the airport....

    That ruled out a prolonged stay in Russia, where a spokesman for President Vladimir Putin said Snowden had withdrawn his request for asylum after the Russian leader said he should stop "harming our American partners."....

    U.S. President Barack Obama has made clear to a number of countries that granting him asylum would carry costs...."


    www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/02/us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE9610C520130702
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    just a matter of time until he ends up in an "accident"
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    Tyrannical governments don't cotton to whistelblowers, so this won't end well for Snowden. I wonder what Obama told Putin that made him wash his hands of the situation?
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    Snowden is the canary in the coal mine. The day has come that the American dissident is a real entity. But will our masters in Washington take this opportunity to reflect on how out of control they have become and reel it back in? Hell no, they won't. It's all on Snowden. They've done nothing to create this situation.

    This isn't about Obama. This isn't about Bush. Both of them are guilty of ramping up this culture of secrecy and spying. It's about ALL of them, legislative, executive, and judicial, and as long as people blame only one party or the other and live in a fantasy world where their guys are alright and will fix everything, I guarantee you all of them will keep pouring it on. All Republicans and Democrats do is take turns ramping up different onerous catastrophes. Neither ever undoes the damage done by the other.
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    People that nobody trusts eventually disappear.
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    The advantages of possessing a big stick.


    "The apparent diversion of the Bolivian president’s airplane in Europe has fed suspicion that the United States is quietly orchestrating an international manhunt for former NSA contractor Edward Snowden despite efforts by President Obama to play down the magnitude of that pursuit.

    The circumstances surrounding the unscheduled landing of Bolivian President Evo Morales’s aircraft in Vienna remained murky Wednesday, with U.S. officials refusing to comment on Bolivian claims that the flight was blocked as part of an effort to ascertain whether Snowden — who has acknowledged leaking classified U.S. intelligence documents — was on board.

    At the same time, U.S. officials made clear that the administration has held talks with governments that might be in a position to prevent Snowden from eluding U.S. capture.

    “We have been in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries, but I’m not going to outline when those were or what those countries have been,” State Department spokesman Jennifer Psaki said on Wednesday.

    Bolivian authorities accused the United States of forcing Morales’s plane to land in Austria by putting pressure on American allies, including France and Portugal, and possibly Spain and Italy, to refuse to allow the Bolivian leader’s plane to enter their airspace.

    Those governments have so far not acknowledged blocking Morales’s path at the behest of the United States. But their opaque statements, and a search of the aircraft by Austrian authorities, suggest that at least some U.S. allies in Europe have been persuaded to assist in the pursuit of Snowden even while expressing anger over revelations that their citizens and officials have been swept up in the surveillance programs that Snowden exposed..."

    www.washingtonpost.com/world/nation...411-11e2-aef3-339619eab080_story.html?hpid=z4
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    I'm guessing this tyranny started in 09?
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    No, but O's making damn sure no one else dare step out of line.
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    Yeah, this....this isn't going to end well.
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    You know, this is the kind of bully tactics that if BUSH had done people would've been screaming about it.

    I don't have problems with bringing the guy to trial, which will never happen - he either escapes or he'll be killed. I have a problem with bullying other heads of state in mid air by forcing their plane to land like that. Can you imagine the outrage in the US if another country made Air Force One land like that?
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    Yep, he will get "Vince Fostered."
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    More likely that Snowden wouldn't give Putin anything he wanted and Putin had no further use for him.

    Plus, Russians have historically not been a whistle-blowing culture and have gone to great lengths to execute intelligence leakers from Russia who defected. There's probably little sympathy for him over there and they figure that giving him up to us will cost them very little, while they could potentially gain something later on in return.
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    He probably told him he'd have Kraft send him another Super Bowl ring.
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    I'm guessing it got ramped up in 2009 with Big SIS, and the NSA. O has taken it to a new level.
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    nobody forced the plan to land. plane did not have permission to fly over certain countries.
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    All Snowden has to do is go find a comfortable cave somewhere in the Middle East....they will never find him there.
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    I do think China and Putin are enjoying this clown show
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