Should their the more diversity of thought on this forum

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    Archaic ideas like The Constitution? Left or left of center economic ideas don't work. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see to see the common denominator of failure associated with progressive economic policies. You can't take a European model of 60 million educated people and apply it to our economy. Now I would support a flat tax and limited government involvement in our economy, including getting rid of the special interest groups driven economy. That is the real issue here.
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    Should there be an English requirement to start threads on this forum?
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    There it is. I crack up every time some mouthbreathing liberal politician, the President chief among them, talks about capitalism as a "failed model" or summat.

    Here's the score sheet on economic models --

    Capitalism -- pretty much exclusively invented the very idea of personal leisure, of social and economic mobility (there would never be phrases like "new money" without capitalism), and fostered almost all material prosperity available to mankind.

    Every other system combined -- none of that

    Systems premised on the values articulated by Marx -- wellsprings of human misery and destitution. 100 million dead bodies to squelch objection or resistance to wellsprings of human misery and destitution.

    Failed model? Only model that's ever been worth a damn.
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    Their should definitely the more diversity of thought.
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    Sports fans tend to be right leaning

    This has been researched
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    See Michi post for an example
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    fred, river, nana are not right by any means.
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    No country survived using progressive or left-of-center economics. Not a one. Some countries failed 2 or 3 times trying to prove it works. Unfortunately, the US will be another country to fall victim to government interference.
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    If the U.S. continues to lean left, there is a high likelihood that the U.S. will be on the losing end of World War III in a few short decades. China plans to confront the U.S. militarily within 30 years, and they plan on winning. Russia will probably wipe the floor with whoever survives that battle. Expect a quick surrender by an ultra-liberal president.

    You are already seeing nations challenge the U.S. indirectly. China laid claims on several islands that are claimed by other countries, to see how far they can push their luck and bully those other nations. Syria inspired Obama to draw a red line in the sand, and then admit that he didn't know what a red line in the sand was when Syria crossed it. Russia claims ownership of the Arctic Circle and is willing to have a pseudo-military invasion of the Ukraine. The only one of these actions that occurred under GWB was Russia and the Arctic, and that was because the Arctic wasn't going to complain. We have a weak president, and other countries know this. They also know that Europe has been lulled to sleep by socialism. Europeans don't have the energy or moral fiber to stand up to Russia. Facing the prospect of dealing with a cold winter without Russian gas would be just too horrifying for them.

    China and Russia won't directly challenge the U.S. militarily while the U.S. still has a strong military. They will wait a few decades for the U.S. to weaken economically, as more liberal policies take effect. They will bide their time and look for opportunities to upgrade their own military capabilities (develop stealth aircraft, etc.) while the U.S. slowly goes to sleep like Europe did.
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    I have not seen much progressive thought from the left on here. I have seen a lot of regressive from the left, though.

    Joking aside, we have seen a lot of Marx progressivism on the boards. But, you did not define which progressive thought you are advocating. For example are you advocating progressivism of Woodrow Wilson and TR, or are you advocating the progressivism of Kant, or even Hegel? What is it you are after?

    It seems to me that depending on which brand of progressivism you advocate, you might consider it a compliment to be called a socialist or a Marxist if you truly understood the progressivism you are advocating.
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