Urban's defenses have been pretty bad in his 2 seasons at OSU. At Utah and BG his defenses weren't that good either. In 2010 (no Charlie Strong) his defense was not that good either. The only defenses he has had that were good was when he had Charlie Strong, one of the best DCs in football, as his DC. I don't think he is a good defensive coach. He just had Charlie Strong make him look like one.