"Settled Science" ... Maybe Not!

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    We've known this has been bogus for awhile. Other things we know are bogus:

    *Blood Lipid Hypothesis

    *people need multi-vitamin supplements

    *fish oil rocks!

    *people are dying "from being fat"

    *some foods make you healthy and some foods make you unhealthy
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    I don't think *any* of those things were ever presented as "settled."

    In fact, it's antithetical to call scientific theories "settled."
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    Even the theory of gravity isn't settled. I have my own theory, which I call the weight theory. It's incredibly simple, unlike hypothetical talk about "gravity waves." It's our weight that keeps us attached to the Earth. If we didn't weigh anything, we would just float away. Ever notice a lot of dust particles floating around in the air of a room? (If not, come to my house.) It's because they weigh almost nothing. Who needs a Newton or Einstein to figure this out?
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    People who lean on science to promote theories do not, repeat: DO NOT present said theories as unsettled. And there was nothing in the mind of the healthcare industry that considered "high cholesterol causes heart disease" as anything but settled.

    In fact, shortly after I moved from Orlando to Charlotte, my Orlando doctor mailed me a return receipt requested letter reminding me that I had a "life threatening medical condition."

    Translation: my total cholesterol tends to run over 200.
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    You mean all the studies that were supposed to have established that high cholesterol causes heart disease ?
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    Don't understand what you mean. What presentation ? There was no presentation. There is only "Here are your statins. Be sure and take them every day so you don't die."
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    Fish oil is one well researched treatment for high triglycerides. I got that from my doctor.
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    I posted studies recently debunking the claims or at least calling into question the efficacy. Same can be said for glucosamine. And doctors still readily prescribe that.
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    Visit www.drsinatra.com . He (world famous cardiologist) agrees with you.

    It's all about the good/bad ratios according to the good doctor.
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    I imagine that debate over what's really best to eat will continue long after none of us are eating anymore. I figure the prime thing is just to eat as few processed foods as possible. But maybe some study will show that's wrong, too.

    BTW, it's pretty silly how the Breitbart piece tried to blame this on the government.
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    Crab legs are bad for you if you forget to pay for them.
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    Government is fair game. It's the one that has driven the medication and diet trends.
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    *Americans are eating more processed foods than ever.

    *Americans are living longer than ever.

    *Therefore, processed foods are extending our lives.
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    My godfather once shared with me an observation he made, that has always stuck with me--and which I've put to the test and have yet to find a single exception:

    "Nunca e conocido un gordo que no gusta comer".

    Translation:

    I never met a fat person who doesn't like to eat [a lot]. <----implied.

    I'm still looking for the exception to this rule--that is, to meet a fat person who doesn't to consume more calories than he/she expends--and who doesn't enjoy doing it (post consumption guilt notwithstanding).

    This scientific 'hypothesis' has always held true--if you consume more calories than you expend, you will gain weight; if you expend more than you consume, you will lose weight.

    I'd file that one under 'settled science'--although in my 'filing system', it would go under 'common sense'. :)
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    You mean people that were heavier than Grandad ate more than he did ? D'uh! So ? And ? I guess the definition of "glutton" is a person who carries more bodyfat than you do.
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    I just knew Dreamliner was going to run with this thread!
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    1. God father, not 'grand dad';

    2. What do I mean? I don't 'mean' anything'--I simply shared an observation that was shared with me. Draw your own conclusions--or none at all. You may also simply observe...or test the 'observation' for yourself....or whatever;

    3. My definition of 'glutton' is someone who harbors an inordinate appreciation for food, and who habitually indulges him/herself without restraint;

    How do you define 'glutton'?
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    I suppose it remains to be seen whether we will be able to rise above the titanic idiocy of our (god)fathers.
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    Um hmm...

    Now, again, how do you define Glutton?

    ...or do you even recognize such a thing as 'gluttony'?

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