Sessions denies access to asylum for domestic abuse victims

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  1. philobeddoe

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    So in your mind the US should be required to except under the guise of asylum every abused female and male for that matter on earth?
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    Who said anything about "required"? I'm talking about a blanket ban. English???
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    You know what’s sad about this is the same people who want the US to grant asylum to every domestic abuse victim on earth also claim there are insufficient mental health and other support systems for American citizens who suffer from domestic abuse.

    Well the lunacy ever end? The stuff would be laughable if it weren’t so sad.
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    What hell you can’t pick and choose. You got except everyone who applies. And if you’re excepting everyone who applies then hell everyone’s going to apply.

    At some point you guys got to start considering the financial consequences of all these dumb ass demands you come up with.
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    According to this, it would appear that there are conditions to gaining citizenship for applicants for immigration.

    Understanding U.S. Citizenship Eligibility Requirements

    I didn't see where we have to "except" everyone who applies. Maybe I missed it.
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    Domestic abuse cannot be a reason to be grant asylum in the US. If it is ....... a significant number, perhaps almost all, women in the Muslim world would qualify. :devil:
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    Not only that but the majority of the third world countries might just have some "form" of domestic abuse. This is a criminal issue that does not pass the asylum test as a reason for consideration. Wife beating (is a despicable crime) is still not a reason for asylum.
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    Then why did good ole Jeffy boy target that specifically? And save the BS because the brown people were getting over on it. There are millions of regular white people in this country that game the system that are already here. Think mortgage fraud, for example.
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    Because this was the after the fact excuse, meaning the excuse they gave the judge when, and if, they actually went to court... obviously lawyer-ed-up by then.
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    So some scared, beat up young mother of 19 from some small village in Honduras or Ecuador is sophisticated enough to pull a fast one on the US Immigration department. Really? Sounds more like a US problem than a them problem.
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    .....only because Sessions declared it so.
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    I don't like Sessions any more than you do, Nana. But we cannot have 94,000 people per year from down south applying for asylum with many if not most of the woman, or men for that matter, giving the same exact excuse for coming to our country.
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    There has to be court records to corroborate that.
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    Dude that was really bad. Some may do. But for those victims trapped in it, having outsiders that don't know the first damm thing about their specific situation makes extremely difficult to report, let alone get out of dodge and haul it to another country where they might be safe. Some folks around here need to brush up on domestic violence and maybe they might understand a little better. I know my mom and her buddies changed lives, and yes saved lives by helping victims.
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    Do you have a link for that?
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    Yeah, it was in poor taste, but if that is true, then would it be a stretch to at least confirm these accusations of abuse? Surely there are court documents from their country of origin that we could see all the details and FACTS of that abuse, right?
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    Fox News last night. He was on LIVE WITH TUCKER CARLSON.
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    Not if they weren't reported to the authorities locally. Believe it or not, but sometimes young women are too afraid to report their abuser for fear of more harm to her and her children and family too. It happens, just ask my mom. Does that mean no report = no abuse? Of course not, don't be ridiculous. And the push back on the victim by outsiders just makes is that much more difficult. Are we really that cold hearted? Do we condone spouse abuse? If not, why do we make so many excuses for it and challenge it when it is truthfully reported?
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    Well, that's a dilemma, surly if a woman is battered and she has no way out she must be saved... But we also need some sort of proof of these abuses. There are two things here, we must err on the side of the potentially battered woman in all cases. There also has to be a legal means by which to give refuge to those that truly need it, and separate those that are not at risk.
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