Secretariat dominance in the Belmont Stakes 45 years ago today

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  1. Gatorrick22

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    And something else... None of the horses racing in the Belmont have to have raced in the other two (Kentucky Derby & The Preakness) of the Triple Crown races. It seems that the Belmont should have that prerequisite if the triple Crown is at stake and all the horses have to have raced in the other two previous races.
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    "We'll test these two to the wire"
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    One more thing about secretariats record for the Belmont and the one and 1/2 mile distance for dirt track...

    No horse has run within two seconds of his Belmont time, and the second fastest time for the distance is 1.4 seconds behind, about 5 to 6 lengths.
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    Actually, several of the horses in the Belmont raced in the Derby, but skipped the Preakness, and, I believe two other ran in all three, Bravazo was one, for example.
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    That's what I mean...
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    It all comes down to the fact that owners and traiiners throw horses into the Kentucky Derby that really don't belong there.

    Just because they won a few races in a small track, against underclassed horses, and win say, a Grade III Stakes race, the wner willl "pony up" the $200,000 supplemental entry fee with the Longshot hopes that their hors might come close, so they can make SOME money later in stud fees.

    That's why you see a full field of 20 horses running in the Derby. Next, depending how the horses ran, the winner, of course, HAS to run the Preakness to keep the chance of a Triple Crown alive..

    The others, the contenders, depending on how the horses cam out of the Derby, MIGHT run in the Preakness, or the trainer might think the Derby took a bit out of his horse, and decides to rest him until the Belmont, which is the Longest race these horses will ever run.

    At One and a half miles, the Belmont is a grueling task

    You can't force horses to run all three races, as that's a recipe for disaster for the horses. If too much was taken out of one or more in the Derby, you'll see horses going down in subsequent races.

    Also, the field opens up for new entries in the nex races.
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    To continue the thought, with 20 horses, the Derby isn't always won by the best horse. Often, the best horse will get pinned on the rail or get stuck in traffic and have too many horses to pass in not enough time. For the owner/trainer of horses they think are better than the Derby winner, the best strategy is to rest the horse for the 5 weeks between the Derby and the Preakness, which also cuts down on a relocation between tracks.

    Is it fair? Depends on whom you ask, but it's why there have been a number of horses who have won the first two legs but fall short on the third. The Preakness is another 1/4 mile, and it's the third race on three different tracks in five weeks for the triple crown contender.

    It's also why horses who win the Triple Crown are truly special, and Justify certainly is.
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    Sham was the best competition on the planet for Secretariat and would have won the Triple Crown himself most years. He was gassed at Secretariat's pace halfway through the race and fell to last. Big Red set a track record that may never be broken. There has never been another horse that could have beaten Secretariat that day.
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    Didn't Sham finish second in both the Kentucky derby and the Preakness? I think sham also broke the existing track record for the Kentucky derby that day.
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    Yes, by 2 1/2 lengths in both races, I think. Secretariat and Sham were the first two horses to run the Derby in less than 2 minutes, and only one other horse has done it since then, equaling Sham's time of 1:59 4/5.