Sebelius Responds to Dying Girl ‘Someone Lives and Someone Dies’

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    She isn't. Somebody appealed to her to put her into the loop. She declined.
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    what part of "the girl has cystic fibrous" is not understandable??

    All this will do is extend her life somewhat, it will not save it. Everyone here is glossing over this.

    This girl at 10 years old gets new lungs......will now be on a heavy dose of immunosupressent drugs as well as all her meds that are trying to keep here INCURABLE disease (cystic fibrous) in check.

    this alone will set her up for all kinds of bacteria and viruses that she will be even more susceptible to.

    All a a cost of 100's of thousands if not millions of dollars to save one very sick girl.
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    And so it begins... money for life in Obama-care. Who lives and who dies according to money.
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    To the degree that there are people who would be cured by this lung transplant, I think the idea that they should get them instead of someone who will still have a fatal disease and a very short life expectancy is a fair point that doesn't consider cost at all.
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    exactly the way it should be if you don't have it yourself to pay for it you should be allowed to die.

    I am a 100% proponent of telling people NO you just have to say good bye.....

    Its not about Obama care for me, it about personal responsibility. If you cant afford it you die

    people die every second in this world for all kinds of reasons, as I am typing this someone just died.....
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    this, how many of the 1600 people on the lung transplant list DO NOT have an incurable disease?

    every one of them should have priority before this little girl.
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    And what would happen if you had to pay for your care out of your own pocket? With no insurance. Or if you went over the total limit of your insurance? It is an uncomfortable truth. Thje rich can afford better care and they can afford better lawyers and CPAS. They have better cars, bigger houses and go on fancier vacations.
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    One of the criteria for a transplant is the general state of health of the recipient. I know about this because our cleaning lady needded a liver transplant (she got hep C at a tattoo parlor). She received a lower priority because she had other health problems (she was a smoker and had a heart murmur). Having cystic fibrosis should send her to the bottom of a priority list because she has a bad prognosis even after she gets a new lung.
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    It's a fair point. I don't know how long a transplant would prolong the child's life, if it were long enough, a cure, or better treatment might be developed. I have a friend with an incurable disease, doctors said she would be dead 20 years ago, but she's still here. She had a kidney transplant, but her disease destroyed her new kidneys in 7 years. Now she's on dialysis, and hoping for another transplant. I think her odds of getting one are not good.
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    A federal Judge has just ruled the little girl is to be put on the list
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    If she's on the new list, I hope she's near the bottom below all of the people who have only a lung problem and not a host of other problems that won't be solved by getting the transplant.
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    Cold.
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    Why? You think someone who has very little chance to survive should get a transplant above someone just because they are younger?
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    nothing cold about it. its the truth. a lung transplant will not cure this cure it will only prolong her life.

    There may be 100's of others that need a transplant that would survive much longer then her becuase they don't have an INCURABLE disease.....
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    Playing god with life or death is cold for a non-doctor.
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    "A federal court judge has granted a temporary order that will allow 10-year-old Sarah Murnaghan, who is dying from cystic fibrosis and desperately needs new lungs, to join an adult organ transplant list.

    The judge has scheduled a preliminary injunction hearing for June 14, MyFoxPhilly reported.

    Judge Michael Baylson made his ruling after hearing oral arguments Wednesday afternoon on a federal lawsuit filed by Sarah's parents, challenging the "Under 12 Rule" that was keeping the 10-year-old off the adult transplant list.

    Baylson's order tells Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius to direct the group that manages the organ transplant list to cease application of it in Sarah's case.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/...t-in-girl-lung-transplant-case/#ixzz2VNrMve5X
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    How do you know she has little chance to live?
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    Because a lung transplant doesn't cure cystic fibrosis. She has a disease that, in fairly short order, will shut down her new lung too along with her other vital organs.
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    Good, now if Sebelius interferes she could be in deep trouble.
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    ok Dr Ben

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