Scouting reports on Embiid, Wiggins, Parker & Randle

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    Disagree on Embiid. I don't put him in the same category as Tim Duncan ('97) or Shaq ('92) as far as ability to carry a team to a championship. Centers are fragile and he's already injured his back. I think Wiggins, Parker and Randle are safer picks in that top tier.
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    So, you're an orthopedist and examined him yourself? "Safer" picks? This is the most HYPED draft class maybe ever, but it is ALL hype. None of these guys is a sure thing...why wouldn't you take the guy with the most potential reward, the one-of-a-kind prospect, instead of 3 guys who are just as incomplete as players as Embiid?
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    Embiid and Wiggins should go #1 & #2 one way or the other IMO.
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    Some centers are fragile. Others last forever. Even if you get a few great years out of one, though, that's better than anything you'll get out of a wing player. Scouts are talking about him being the next Hakeem. If there's even a possibility, you have to take it. As they say in the article, role players aren't getting you anywhere and neither are all-stars. You need all-NBA talent win a championship because there are so few players on the court at one time.
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    Embiid's back problem was publicized and the Cavs have "red-flagged" him as a result. Wasn't Greg Oden a "one-of-a-kind" prospect?
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    He was also 46 years old as a college freshman.
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    Back injuries are not something one can simply shrug off, speaking as someone who has had 35 years of difficulty with his back.

    The back is a complex set of balanced musculature, ligaments, cartiledge and bone, and any time anything, including merely a couple of muscles becomes unbalanced, this can cause problems, and sometimes major problems.

    A team is a team is a team, no matter how amazing ones "stars" are. I really think that Wiggins should probably be #1, but it is always difficult to judge such things.
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    I'd draft Randle last out of that group. I think he'll be solid in the pros but I'm not drafting in the top five for a solid player.
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    It is going to be hard to pass on Embiid
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    He can hit a step back from the free throw line. That's pretty good range for a guy his size. Add in some pretty good post moves already and I completely agree. No way you pass on him.
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    You could argue there has never been a HS prospect come so far, so fast...from barely playing at Montverde as a JR and getting abused by Zona bound Brandon Ashley in the NHSI to the Rock, to KU, and now to #1 in the draft....as rapid an ascension, especially from where he was 3 years ago to now, as I can ever recall
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    I wouldn't say it happens a lot, but it's not unheard of for post players out of Africa. Mutombo didn't even play in HS and Thompson saw him at Georgetown and asked him to play basketball.

    Olajuwan barely played in HS, didn't get an offer from anyone but Houston and then never played until his redshirt sophomore year and led Houston to the championship game twice and then was drafted #1 overall after his Junior before going on to become the best player in the world that was still actively playing for a few years.

    Teams are more willing to draft guys younger these days, but people also forget that Hakeem went #1 in the 84 draft. Most people just remember Jordan was drafted behind Bowie, but he was also drafted after Hakeem, which wasn't a bad pick.
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    I'm pumped about seeing Walker play more this year. He has that same style of dunk where you think it is just a layup until you realize that he is hanging off the rim.
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    Finally read this piece today. It really is a huge conundrum at the top of the draft. Wiggins has the highest upside, Parker is the most ready to play, but can you pass on a legitimate talent like Embiid at the most difficult position to fill on the court? Very hard decision. Embiid's health is obviously a real mitigating factor. I was a pro-Parker guy most of the season, but you couldn't force me to pick between those three now. You would almost rather be Philly since the decision will be made for you.
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    I'd take Embiid first and Randle last of the group. Think I'd go Wiggins over Parker. I think Randle will be solid in the NBA. I think he's a really good get in the 5-10 range.
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    Looking more and more like Elijah Price every day.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11107087/joel-embiid-suffers-foot-injury-prior-nba-draft
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    Scout 1: "There's no fuk you to Wiggins".

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