SCOTUS says its alright to drop registered voters off rolls if they don't vote for 2 years...

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  1. gator_fever

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    I dont think the SC ever 100% said voting proficiency tests were unconstitutional. I think they just ruled that Congress was within their power to stop their use.
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    Do you need I.D. to register?
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    I know, right. Two years is barely enough time to rot in a grave properly. :eek::rolleyes:
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    Yes, and I'm sure the dead Pubs change their registration to Dem shortly after their death too. ;)
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    That's how I read it. And if you return the postage paid notice, you are fine. The other question is whether you would actually be stopped from voting if you were purged or could just submit a provisional ballot pending reinstatement? In most states it's very easy to register, especially if you have a drivers license.
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    Why? What's the game here?
    Smells like a foot in the door to more and more voter suppression to me.
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    Clearly.

    And the undead largely vote republican. And werewolves usually go libertarian, which is a shock because you’d think they want some subsidy for all their tattered clothing.
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    I suppose for the same reason you have registration at all -- to have an updated list of people who live in a precinct and are qualified to vote there. I've lived a lot of different places, and I've never taken the time to remove myself from the voter rolls. I just assumed it would happen automatically eventually. Given that, six years doesn't seem unreasonable to me -- surely it has to happen at some point.

    Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think voter suppression is a serious problem and probably the underlying motivation for a lot of facially neutral election rules. But I just don't think this is a good issue to fight that battle on. It's a reasonable rule and I doubt it prevents a significant number of votes in the grand scheme of things. Making it a big issue just detracts from many other more important problems.
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    "Given that, six years doesn't seem unreasonable to me -- surely it has to happen at some point."

    again I ask why? I don't see the government as some efficiency conscious machine. So there are folks on the rolls that haven't voted for years-- so what? How is that a problem?
    In my business I use a lot of vendors. Some I don't use for over 2 years some longer, yet my account is still there and active.
    I'm just a big fan of looking for the "why"?
    I've been in situations dealing and negotiating with activist groups. An agreement is reached on a rather insignificant issue. Then the day it is implemented, the phone rings and we are told that's not good enough now. They want more. Classic "foot in the door". I've seen this many times.
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    Any party working so hard to reduce the number of legal and eligible voters is a disgrace. Having a goal to disqualify any people that are eligible is plain crooked. Crooked pubs.
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    Whenever I've argued for mandatory voting, people have said you have the right to not vote, but that seems to be a questionable idea thanks to this ruling.
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    So when do you think it is appropriate to update your voter rolls to take out people who have moved or are dead? Is six years not enough even with the notification that lets you extend that? Does it need to be a decade or two? This also doesn't stop people from voting as they can fill out a provisional ballot on election day and get the paperwork sorted out later.

    Provisional Voting - Ohio Secretary of State
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    The state has to make an effort to identify who is actually eligible to vote in that district. If you never purged the rolls, then everybody is eligible to vote in every district they have ever lived in and that would entice some to forum shop on election day. So maybe I live in a hard blue district where my vote won't matter, but in another district where I used to live has a close race. So I might go vote there instead and it would be difficult to identify where people are voting outside of their current district.
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    Does this surprise you about pubs?
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    Why isn't 6 years a reasonable number and what would be a reasonable number?
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    Not at all. The VRA ensures that a citizen can remain registered and refrain from voting forever if that’s what s/he wants to do. All that’s required is to send back a pre-paid card (or in Ohio’s case, respond online) every few years.

    And of course nobody is required to register to vote in the first place.
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    Would that it did ...
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    I see that, but when I've suggested that mandatory voting would involve requesting exemptions to get out of it if you dont want to vote or cant vote, kind of like jury duty, people suggested that not voting was more like an absolute right, rather than one you had to exercise to take advantage of. We cant argue thats the case if you have to fill out a form so that you can continue not to vote if you want.
  19. philobeddoe

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    If those dropped from the register are non-voters …….. how are there fewer people voting?

    And, if someone is dropped and wants to vote, just register, again.
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    How do you "suppress" a voter who's not voting?????
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