Scientists create new life form

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    Yes, I understand the supposed context. But that applies only with respect to those who may believe that life was intelligently designed without honestly knowing anything about the designing intelligence. But everybody knows that by "intelligent design" its proponents virtually always mean creation by Almighty God. And it seems to me that Almighty God would have it within his power to design something not just intelligently but without any flaw. But life, as wondrous as it is, is in many ways poorly designed. (Exactly as one would expect through the makeshift process of evolution.)
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    This just sounds too religious to me. Bunch of gobbledy-gook.
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    he is either flawed or cruel
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    well then you should question your own beliefs, because they sound ridiculous also
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    I know. Especially the part about the old guy in the sky with the white beard, the part you've subconsciously bought into.
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    Of course you assume that Homo Sapiens are fully evolved. Maybe not? Takes time, or so we are told. Lots of time.
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    Exactly. Instead the close minded start throwing out god this and god that. I wish people would just step back and open their minds to the possibilities. Much more fun.
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    It's frustrating that some people refuse to be more scientific about this. Too much knee-jerk emotionalism.
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    Exactly. But let's face it, we don't know what it is. Maybe something we have no present concept of. Actually, more than likely. The Bible was an attempt ( a good one) at being able to explain, seemingly to this day, the inexplicable. Humans have always been desperate to explain everything. Some things - right now - are simply inexplicable although some will have you believe we have it all figured out.
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    Old guy is the sky or not, it's still an supernatural, omnipotent, yet anthropomorphic being, who apparently likes to play a cruel game called life
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    I know, because something personal creating persons just strains credulity, doesn't it ? Better try another another religion.
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    Flaw? Only if his desire was to create robots.
    We were created in His image...with a similar dree will.
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    A good attempt is just stating it's a possibility that there is more than just the physical, what it is, we don't know yet

    The Bible goes way way past that...to the point of being a way to control the masses...which humans probably needed, but is growing outdated...
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    God looks like you!
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    Yeah, thats what I said.:rolleyes:
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    I think it's an interesting question that goes a little beyond free will.

    Why would an all-powerful and omnipotent being, who would therefore unquestionably have the ability to make something that wouldn't disappoint him (and to know that what he did create was going to), instead create something that he already knew was going to make him so mad that he would have to wipe all but two of them off the face of the earth and basically start over?

    Aside from "this is all a game," I'm not sure that there is a terribly satisfying answer as to why someone with the power to create something perfect would instead create something that was inherently going to fall short of what he wanted and make him have to punish them for the very shortcoming that he created?
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    @GatorBen I think that free will does answer that. He is not a controlling creator, much like a good parent.
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    You said we look like God. What's the difference?
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    I mean, kind of I guess.

    At the same time, parents aren't omnipotent.

    If, at the time you got pregnant you could flip a switch and decide between a) a kid who is inherently perfect and you can know with 100% certainty will always meet every expectation you have of him or b) a kid who is inherently imperfect and is going to fall short of what you want every single day, I think I would struggle equally with the question of why someone would say "let's go with the flawed one and see what happens, we can always punish him later if he doesn't do what we want."

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