Science: Humans Evolved When A Chimp Mated With A Pig

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    You can't make this stuff up folks. The lengths that people are willing to go in order to explain our existence without a Creator is truly amazing.

    "Scientists currently suppose that chimpanzees are humans' closest living evolutionary relatives, a theory amply backed by genetic evidence.

    However, as Dr McCarthy points out, despite this genetic similarity, there are a massive number of divergent anatomical characteristics distinguishing the two species.

    These distinguishing characteristics, including hairless skin, a thick layer of subcutaneous fat, light-coloured eyes, protruding noses and heavy eyelashes, to name but a few, are unmistakeably porcine, he suggests.

    There are also a number of less obvious but equally inexplicable similarities between humans and pigs in the structure of the skin and organs.

    Indeed, pig skin tissues and heart valves can be used in medicine because of their similarity and compatibility with the human body.

    Similarities: Dr Eugene McCarthy suggests that humans' hairless skin and subcutaneous fat could be explained by porcine ancestry.

    Dr McCarthy says that the original pig-chimp hook up was probably followed by several generations of 'backcrossing', where the offspring of that pairing lived among chimps and mated with them - becoming more like chimps and less like pigs with every new generation.

    This also helps to explain the problem of relative infertility in hybrids. Dr McCarthy points out that the belief that all hybrids are sterile is in fact false, and in many cases hybrid animals are able to breed with mates of the same species of either parent.

    After several generations the hybrid strain would have become fertile enough to breed amongst themselves, Dr McCarthy says."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-Extraordinary-claim-American-geneticist.html

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    Since McCarthy is a professor at UGA I think this is appropriate:

    The University of Georgia: So easy that the offspring of a chimp and pig could do it!
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    What would prompt a chimp and a pig to mate? Is it even possible?
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    Plank, I'm thinking you probably learned of McCarthy and his theory from the World Net site before you linked to the article at the Daily Mail. I looked on WND to see what it had to say and the article there indicates McCarthy is not currently affiliated with UGA as either a professor or a student.
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/claim-humans-came-from-chimp-mating-a-pig/

    McCarthy has written the following about his education on his own website:
    http://www.macroevolution.net/about-me.html#at_pco=tcb-1.0&at_tot=10&at_ab=-&at_pos=5
    Eugene McCarthy, his sow and 2 little piglets:
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    Fair question. Do we have any resident Too Hot geneticists with particular expertise in hybridization?

    He explains it here

    According to McCarthy, it was accepted at Oxford University Press (which is generally considered one of the top three most prestigious academic presses in existence, maybe the top). In any case, he says he eventually withdrew the book manuscript because the editors were concerned about portions of his theory.

    I'll admit in a sense it rings of guilt that I hear in the academy on occasion when folks can't get their manuscripts published...which is most of the time. At the same time, editors change, authors won't budge on some issues etc...which leads to not having something published/withdrawn. As it is, nothing is published until it is published.

    Take it for what it's worth. It's a theory, or at least right now, a hypothesis. Whether it stands up to empirical scrutiny is unknown at this time, regardless of those who scoff at what might seem at first blush, quite outlandish.
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    Why am I hearing banjos playing all of a sudden?? (Deliverance reference for the younger group)
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    Pretty ridiculous to find one guy, who is not even a working scientist or professor, who throws out a theory of what he thinks might have happened ... and it's presented here as "Science says this happened."

    and then claim it's some kind of widespread attack on God or something
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    I've got an idea. Maybe Masters and Johnson in the "Masters of Sex" show should observe a chimp and pig mate in their laboratory. The resulting hybrid birth could be a real cliffhanger.
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    No, the idea is pretty out there, for a lot of reasons. Modern humans have 46 chromosomes, chimpanzees have 48, and pigs have 38. There is little chance that pig/humans would be fertile even if they got through the unlikely steps of 1) mating, 2) fertilizing, and 3) developing.

    This is a non-sensible idea by a single person, not "science". The title of thread should read: "Some guy: Humans evolved when a chimp mated with a pig"
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    it depends on how cute the pig or chimp is.....
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    I take it this was posted as a joke.
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    To be blunt, I didn't give it all that much thought. It is whacky. But as someone who does tend to like that people lay out considered, if crazy ideas, I am game to listen a bit.
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    A slow pig?
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    Are we in Tennessee now?

    Bad enough to be related to an ape, now it's an ape and a pig?
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    If Planned Parenthood or the ACLU or friends sponsored this study, it will be in every science textbook in the public schools across the country in no time. You laugh, but this is EXACTLY what they do in state legislatures with so-called science.

    CORRUPTION RULES!!!!!
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    For sure. The guy has a PhD, so it isn't like he is some cult leader saying all of this, but the idea doesn't make a whole of lot sense. If humans became hairless because they mated with pigs, how did pigs become hairless? Mating with humans? And what about the naked mole rat? or dolphin? And I shudder to think about what armadillos must have mated with. :)
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    I have known some PhD that were a bit weird. You can be smart and crazy at the same time
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