Saudis not happy with Hussein and Hassan's bff going on ...

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    Exactly, this switching positions dependent on whether the POTUS is a Dem or Rep drives me bonkers. People change their minds which is understandable but to do so for such a shallow reason says little for that person's convictions.
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    Try getting alone without their oil and lets hear you then Try paying $7 to $8 a gallon for gas if you can get it try paying $400.00 elec mo if you can get it you will need that garden because if you thank groceries are high now you have not seen nothing yet. With out the Saudi oil our whole economy will falter


    I was a oil Jobber with Sinclair BP and Fina in the last saudi slow down my quota for gasoline went from 1 Million gallons month to 100,000 per month I closed 4 stations and the rest were on strict allocation It was not fun For those that dont remember it or to young to be effected by it it was tough

    The Saudi did not cut us off completely just cut our imports down. If they were to cut us off completely we would be dead in the water. They can sell all the oil they are selling to some one else
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    So you think we should kiss their azz for their oil? How about Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, and Africa. Should we get them all together and get their input as to what our foreign policy should be?
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    I thought you guys wanted a tough POTUS rather than an appeaser. Guess it was all talk.
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    I suspect you would be one of the first to rail against electric vehicles too.
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    Barack needs to send over some more taxpayer billions to make them "happy" again
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    Where you going to get the energy to charge those elec cars?

    They are closing atomic energy plants down , onama has run the coal mining out of business, they are trying to outlaw franking, obama has cut production on fed lands for oil way down. We are stick with fossil fuel


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    Canada is about the only one we could count on and obama has pissed them off about the pipe line and they are in the precess of selling their oil to Russia

    Surely you cannot put any faith in Mexico Venezuela and Africa

    What oil you will be able to get from them will be so expensive we cannot afford it.

    Job growth requires at least 2 things reasonable priced labor and reasonable priced energy if we were to open up new factories where will we get the energy to run them especially if OPEC which Venezuela is a member of cuts production back again.
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    No you dont have to kiss their ass but you do have to have a certain amount of diplomacy which obama does not have He is to arrogant
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    So you trust a Muslim country more than you do Canada or Mexico? Come on, you are smarter than this argument. The Saudis don't give a damn about us just like the rest of the Islamic countries in the Mideast. We are useful and that is about it. That's not to say all the people in all of those countries dislike us but rather we are a nation of infidels and that's how they view us.

    With respect to Iran they will use us for their own end. I am not into letting them dictate what we do on the world stage.
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    If Canada signs a contract with Russia and Canada has already said they are negotiating one They wont have any surplus oil to sell us But even if they did the price will be out of sight and wreck our economy and no I would not trust Mexico 5 minutes
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    What has Mexico done that would make you say that. Or for that matter why in the world would you trust the Saudis? You know they were in on the embargo since you said so in one of your posts. What makes you think they would not do it again?

    Come on this isn't about trusting SA it's about Obama. If Obama was kissing up to them you guys would find a problem with that. That's what happens when you are tied at the hip to him and his actions.
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    SA is head of OPEC If obama gets arrogant with SA we are dead because obama has no place else to turn to replace the oil they sell us We are closing our coal plants we are closing our atomic energy plants we are trying to outlaw freckling obama has cut back production on fed lands so he has tied us to the hip of SA as you say He wont approve the XL pipeline so Canada is looking to sell the oil to Russia Closing these other energy sources increases our need of fossil fuel Where is going to come from
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    Definition of 'Organization Of Petroleum Exporting Countries - OPEC'
    An organization consisting of the world's major oil-exporting nations. The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was founded in 1960 to coordinate the petroleum policies of its members, and to provide member states with technical and economic aid. OPEC is a cartel that aims to manage the supply of oil in an effort to set the price of oil on the world market, in order to avoid fluctuations that might affect the economies of both producing and purchasing countries.
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    Investopedia explains 'Organization Of Petroleum Exporting Countries - OPEC'
    OPEC membership is open to any country that is a substantial exporter of oil and that shares the ideals of the organization. As of 2011, OPEC had 12 member countries, including founder members Iran, Iraq, Kuwait and Venezuela.

    OPEC's influence on the market has been widely critcized. Because its member countries hold the vast majority of crude oil reserves (about 80%) and nearly half of natural gas reserves in the world, the organization has considerable power in these markets.
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    You dont destroy our energy resources as obama has done with out a back up plan solar energy has failed so now we are stuck with outside sources and since OPEC controls 80% of oil reserves and 1/2 natural gas we are at their mercy by our own doing. Tell them to kiss your ass and see what that gets you
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    It's a long way from being arrogant to kissing their butts and letting them dictate who we talk to. And once again if this were a Republican POTUS that is the exact stance most of you would have. From being on the boards and reading posts over the years I know that to be a fact.
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    I dont thank they expect anyone to kiss their butts and dont feel they want to dictate ho and what we say. I do thank they expect us to use diplomacy and assure them that our intentions are noble and honorable on things they effect them. obama has proved he can be arrogant and some times that is not good

    Some times its better lose the battle but win the war
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    The last thing I would allow them to do is tell us we can't open up dialogue with Iran over nukes. I don't trust Iran but then I don't trust SA either.

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