Satanic Mass Planned on Harvard Campus

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    Joseph Stalin was raised to be a Catholic Priest and I remain curious as to why his Christianity is shoved aside in all these arguments. Yes, there is no way to get around the fact that in his early career, Stalin made a vast effort to rid Russia of religion, but that had nothing to do with atheism. It was the only way he knew to seize power of the country.
    For generations the entire populace of Russia had been taught that the head of state was supposed to be close to god. At the time in question, the head of the church in Russia was a tyrant. The Russians were already disposed to servility and all Stalin did was exploit these two facts, and place himself in the position of god. Once Stalin was firmly seated in office, he revived the Russian Orthodox Church in order to intensify patriotic support for the war effort. Stalin was part of a council convened to elected a new church Patriarch. Then the Russian theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. Even the Moscow Theological Academy Seminary was re-opened, after being closed since 1918.
    So, while Stalin was no peach, he was not exactly what you would call a died-in-the-wool atheist. He was more a secular minded religious opportunist, which is a personal character trait. He did not use atheism to gain control, but religious principles that were modified to fit his own, sick and twisted method of revolution.

    What about Pol Pot?
    Truly a monster, having killed some twenty-five percent of the entire population of Cambodia. Pol Pot targeted not just different religions, but education, science and medicine in his quest for total domination. Now, let's take a head count of atheists who are against education, science and medicine. Thought so… Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge were composed of Buddhists and Pol Pot was a Theravada Buddhist. He studied at a Buddhist monastery and then at a Catholic school for 8 years. Cambodia's communism was influenced by Theravada Buddhism.
    Prince Norodom Sihanouk said, "Pol Pot does not believe in God but he thinks that heaven, destiny, wants him to guide Cambodia in the way he thinks it the best for Cambodia, that is to say, the worst. Pol Pot is mad, you know, like Hitler."
    So, while Pol Pot was definitely not a Christian, he was also definitely not an Atheist.

    Let's get on with some Mass Murder, shall we?
    Add up the deaths that were attributed to Hitler, Stalin and Pot. Then round up for good measure. You can safely say that the number is staggering. Probably upwards of fifteen million. However, consider the following conflicts where the only differences between the opposing factions were and are religion:
    • Albigensian Crusade, 1208-49
    • Algeria, 1992-
    • Baha'is, 1848-54
    • Bosnia, 1992-95
    • Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1901
    • Christian Romans, 30-313 CE
    • Croatia, 1991-92
    • English Civil War, 1642-46
    • Holocaust, 1938-45
    • Huguenot Wars, 1562-1598
    • India, 1992-2002
    • India: Suttee & Thugs
    • Indo-Pakistani Partition, 1947
    • Iran, Islamic Republic, 1979-
    • Iraq, Shiites, 1991-92
    • Jews, 1348
    • Jonestown, 1978
    • Lebanon 1860 / 1975-92
    • Molucca Is., 1999-
    • Mongolia, 1937-39
    • Northern Ireland, 1974-98
    • Russian pogroms 1905-06 / 1917-22
    • St. Bartholemew Massacre, 1572
    • Shang China, ca. 1300-1050 BCE
    • Shimabara Revolt, Japan 1637-38
    • Sikh uprising, India, 1984-91
    • Spanish Inquisition, 1478-1834
    • Taiping Rebellion, 1850-64
    • Thirty Years War, 1618-48
    • Tudor England
    • Vietnam, 1800s
    • Witch Hunts, 1400-1800
    • Xhosa, 1857
    • Arab Outbreak, 7th Century CE
    • Arab-Israeli Wars, 1948-
    • Al Qaeda, 1993-
    • Crusades, 1095-1291
    • Dutch Revolt, 1566-1609
    • Nigeria, 1990s, 2000s
    If you add up all of the lives that were lost in the name of one religion or another, you come up with a staggering figure that is in excess of eight-hundred-million. That's eight-hundred-million. An eight, followed by eight zeros. So, even if the believers who are uneducated enough to think that Hitler, Stalin and Pot were psychotic mass murderers because they thought these men were atheists, it is horrifically clear that religious murder wins out.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/refuting-the-myth-that-hitler-stalin-and-pol-pot-were-atheists
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    Nice try. How about in the name of another *religion*--STATISM.
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    There has certainly been a great deal of bloodshed in the name of religion, but also atheism. I was simply addressing your attempt to absolve atheism, when it is central to Communism. Communism requires the elimination of religion (or so they believe; there are religions in Commie countries---but for whatever reason, the Commies seem to think it is necessary to eliminate religion).
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    Ok sure - statism. Not atheism.
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    Stalin attacked the church/religion to seize power. Not because he wanted everyone to abandon God in the name of atheism.

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    Once Stalin was firmly seated in office, he revived the Russian Orthodox Church in order to intensify patriotic support for the war effort. Stalin was part of a council convened to elected a new church Patriarch. Then the Russian theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. Even the Moscow Theological Academy Seminary was re-opened, after being closed since 1918.
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    How about statism, anchored in atheism?
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    How many people died during the Bolshevik Revolution? Weren't they anti Christian? I laugh at the atheists, anti Christians....
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