Satanic Mass Planned on Harvard Campus

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    There is the Veritas Forum at Harvard too. Since 1986 they have had speakers come in to a total of 300,000 people to see and hear. It's not all one sided these days.
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    We are on the same page here bill.
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    You are correct. After his draft day party, Michael Sam's butthurt.
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    Well, actually their point is well taken--many Satanists don't worship Satan--they worship themselves--and this has always been Satan's primary tactic, or his 'M.O.' This is born out in the Bible: Satan tells Adam and Eve to eat of 'the Tree of Knowledge', that they may be like God, or make gods of themselves. According to Tradition, Satan was removed from Heaven (kicked out by St. Michael the Archangel), because he refused to submit to God, because he wanted to be like unto God.

    Satan always been about promoting limitless self-interest and auto-worship, more than worshiping him.

    ...but that's exactly why it has no business being approved as a worthy 'religion' on Harvard--

    What need does any educational institution (let alone one as prestigious and conspicuous as Harvard) have of promoting more unbounded self-interest? Egoism? Selfishness? Are we somehow as a society, lacking in this regard???

    All evil stems from the worship of self.

    Communism, socialism, fascism, dictatorships, capitalism (unchecked), slavery...take virtually any 'evil' in the world, follow its footprints back to its origin (or where it 'went wrong'), and there, you will find someone who sought their own glorification.

    This includes the likes of Hitler, Stalin, kings and queens, Mohammed, and even some of the popes. And look at what happens to so many celebrities?

    The Ego is Satan's greatest tool (egoism/egotism).

    Christ, its greatest antidote.
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    The ego is responsible for man's fabrication of the personal god.
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    Or Jesus. Or Yahweh. Or Allah. They are all really just manifestations of the same thing - self.
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    I've always understood it to mean you're crying like a little child who got paddled - you're "butthurt".
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    How exactly do you know that?
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    Just my opinion.
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    Thank you very much, you are correct. It also doesn't make it correct, but the beautiful thing is you are free to that opinion.
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    There were plenty of wars that happened supposedly in the name or religion. Personally I feel it was more about resources.
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    Sadly 100 X more have been killed in the name of atheism. Pol Pot and Stalin come to mind. Hitler was not a Christian though he grew up Catholic. He created his own god re-writing (not him personally) the Bible to fit his own beliefs.
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    I think you're confusing fascism and communism with atheism. Genocide is often carried out by a proponent of a political "religion" of which atheism or agnosticism might be a tenet, but I think saying that Pol spot and Stalin killed in the name of atheism (a lack of a belief) is wholly disingenuous. I also don't think Hitler killed people "in the name of Jesus" despite claiming to be a Christian. But he did kill people BECAUSE the were Jewish.

    Sometimes religions makes people aggressors (the crusades, countless Muslim conflicts) and sometimes it makes people targets (Jews). Any way you slice it, when you mix religion (including any self aggrandized political fanaticism) and war, it's bad news bears.
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    The point I get from it is that people from every religious or non-religious background are capable of being violent towards each other. Pretending as if religion were the cause of this violence is the same as pretending as if atheism did in those examples. It is people that are violent, they look for the means to fit their desire and if religious or non-religious tenets can be twisted to give them a reason, they'll do that.
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    The eyes are the light of the body. Some have it, some do not.
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    Yes, but in all this circumstances there is some belief system in place that includes an ultimate authority - whether it be God or Dictator. That was my only point. Entire countries and militaries behaving under the blanket of a mass delusion. This is the central theme to almost every example of widespread genocide.
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    One of the central tenets of Communism, is atheism. One of the very first things Communists seek to do, is to eliminate God from the 'collective' mind. Fascism otoh, tolerates religion, but only to the extent that it is tied to a specific country's national identity (e.g.--Islamofacism, Arianism), and subordinate to 'the state'--IOW, only to the extent of its utility to the state, is it even tolerated.

    But both systems are based on the premise of elevating 'the state', to the status of religion, or God. Fascism seeks to subordinate religion to the state, while communism seeks to eliminate it all together.

    So Commie bloodshed is properly 'credited' to the atheists.

    e.g.-- Stalin killed over 21 million of his own ppl, largely in the name of extinguishing God from the ppl's minds (contrast that to the 6 mil. Jews exterminated by Hitler, which we hear about constantly--not downplaying that, just juxtaposing it, for perspective--IOW, intended as a statement of Stalin, not the Holocaust).
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    I don't think Stalin singled out tried to eliminate the Russian Orthodox church in the name of Atheism any more than Hitler singled out and tried to eliminate Jews in the name of Christ.

    These people were singled out and murdered because of their religions, yes, but not in the name of another religion (in these cases Atheism or Christianity).
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