Sanchez out, Vick in...at NY

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    I think you mean ..."in at New York."
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    I tried to change it....but I couldn't figure it out.
    Where's a mod when you REALLY need one?
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    Am I the only one who is puzzled that Ryan is still a head coach?
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    I can add a New York perspective for these moves:

    Fans were totally done with Sanchez. They started souring on him in 2011 as it became evident that he wasn't taking the next step. Jets made OC Brian Schottenheimer the fall guy (someone long hated by the fans, not unlike UF fans and Brent Pease), and by the middle of the 2012 season, with a new OC (Tony Sparano, who was even worse calling plays than Schotty) they were completely finished with Mark. At this point, Sanchez has (had) very few delusional supporters.

    The fans are really skeptical that Geno can succeed as an NFL QB. The Sanchez mistake has them a little gun-shy since Geno was largely bad for his rookie season. In a league where it seems like most of the successful QB's in the past few years have been solid-good during their rookie season, I'd say it's fair to question Geno's future.

    With Vick, it's a pretty polarizing signing. Half the fans love it and think that with Morningwood as his OC again, Vick will return to his 2010 playing level. The other half think he's finished and since he won't have the same weapons he had in Philly, and will be four years older than when he last played great, he's a waste of a signing. There's also a segment that hate the signing because of the dog situation.

    As for why Rex is still the coach, he still has tremendous support among the fans and as 2013 was coming to a close, there was a surge of fan support for Idzik to bring him back. The belief among Rex supporters is that while the offense is terrible, it's largely because the Jets haven't drafted for offense and when they have, the players were busts. They also argue that Rex gets the most out of the team and that with a different coach, last year's team probably would have won three or four games instead of eight.

    Personally, I think the Vick signing is a waste. The intention is for him to push Geno (could happen), for Geno to win the job and have Vick serve as a mentor. I understand that by virtually all accounts, Vick is a far better human now than he was in 2005. But Vick was never a 'heady' QB, even when in Philly, and Geno's biggest issue has been transitioning from Dana Holgerson's offense to an NFL offense and being forced to make reads and go through progressions, something Vick never excelled at even when he was at his best. Because of that, I'm not sure how much of a mentor Vick can really be for Geno.

    I'm also a Rex supporter. I do believe he gets the most out of his teams and that they've tended to overachieve with him as coach. If they draft a WR (or trade for DeSean Jackson) and draft a TE to get some legitimate weapons on the team for the first time since the Keyshawn Johnson/Bill Parcells years, I think the team can return to the playoffs.
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    Seahawks as a back up with Carrol could be a safe bet.
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    Player, at the top right (in a thread YOU created) there is a little option for "Thread Options" (or something like that).

    You can edit your own title there.
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    The buttfumble is my favorite sports play EVER! My desktop's wallpaper devoted to a backside pic of the butt fumble (even funnier than the side view).
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    Nope. Not at all. The place is a mess. Take Vick, been there before, and keep losing.
    Jets are a joke . Fire all of the top management.
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    Vick May the best player on the Jet offense. It helps them more than hurts them. Tells you a lot about the Jets.
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    Vick still a huge upgrade from Sanchez..Sanchez is at best a second stringer.
    of course Vick was the perfect back up in that Philly offense.
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    That's 'champ(s)..
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    Nope...I wonder about that every season.
    Apparently the NFL is desperate for coaches.
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    You exceeded my attention span for anything Jests' related--even when Tebow was there--by about 4 paragraphs.

    Don't mean to knock you sir--just the Jets.
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    unbelievable, a running throwing QB, they could have had a leader in Tebow making the jets tougher, but no, Rex Ryan wouldn't know a leader even if the guy wore a name tag that said leader. Rex should have been fired at least two years ago, he must have something on the owners. Rex like the coach of Denver Don't know offense. So keeping these clowns in the millions is a joke.
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    Most teams fire a head coach when they have a Jet season or several in a row, but they loved him for doing better than the previous failure. They get what they love I guess.
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    I'm not a Ryan fan, but thought he actually did a pretty good coaching job rallying the Jets in the second half of the season.
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    A rally that still left them with yet another bad season. Bottom line is the Jets have been average at best and kept what they have. Buddy Ryan had some great D and no O to help the team win. Foot sniffer isn't much better.

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