Running threat: Driskel vs. Murphy

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  1. SailinGator
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    One of the things that struck me yesterday was how comfortable Murphy seemed to be in using his legs to make a play. Considering that this was one of Driskel's best assets, why have we not seen Jeff take off and run the way Tyler did? For a while I've wondered if the coaches had told Jeff to sit in the pocket and develop as a pocket passer; to not use his legs unless it was a designed play. But watching Murphy run made me wonder if that was true. What the heck happened to Jeff's ability to run? And is Jeff more prone to interceptions because he is a great runner and never really developed pocket awareness in high school?

    I know this is a moot point now that Driskel is out for the season, but did anyone else see this?
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    Yes.

    Pleasantly surprised by Murphy's presence on the field. He did make a couple of bad decisions and a miscue or two, but for his first real game action, he did a great job.
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    I think the early answer was that Pease and Champ may have been trying to mold Jeff into a pocket passer -- and that may still be true. But after yesterdays game, I'm sort of convinced that Jeff had been playing on a bum knee. I went back and watched the Miami game (well, at least most of it) to confirm my suspicion, and from what I saw, he looked almost reluctant to put major pressure on his legs.

    Either way, I think when Murphy came in it was pretty easy to see that the difference between Jeff last year and this year was his mobility.
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    Don't read too much into it. Driskel has great wheels, but he is not a scrambler. He was recruited for the spread triple option because he was dynamite at the runs required in that system: iso, zone read, sprint option, etc. He was never very adept at moving laterally in the pocket to buy himself time nor was he very shifty when he did decide to run. Murphy seems much better on those latter to counts, which are more important given what we run. He can also do some of the spread option stuff we incorporated for Driskel.
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    Murphy seems more elusive and quicker than driskel and seems to have better pocket awareness than driskel and gets out of the pocket when it collapses
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    Murphy just seems to decide what he is going to do more quickly, whether it is to pass or take off running, he gets to it sooner.
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    Murphy is a much better scrambler than JD.
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    Personally, JD looks like a perfect option QB, a natural runner. Potentially a spread option but I think that is TBD. Murphy looks like a scrambler and not as natural of a runner. JMHO
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    Murphy scrambles well and has a great feel for where the pressure is coming from. He also keeps his eyes downfield watching the routes develop....while he scrambles. That skill will be a huge asset when we get into the heart of our SEC schedule!
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    Ironically, it seems they may have been protecting Jeff so he wouldn't get hurt. So we lose to Miami, where some qb runs may have helped and he gets hurt anyway trying to throw from the pocket. Hmmm.
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    I think the big question is do we let Murphy run now or do we tell him play safe because we dont have a back up
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    I liked his slides once he was sure he was going to get hit. He also ran the read option very well. No one knew who was going to get the ball until the last possible moment.
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    Let him run.
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    They both have their strengths when running. Driskel is like Tim; not fast, but hard to bring down once he gets a full head of steam. Murphy is more shifty, able to change directions at will and keep his momentum. Muschamp and Pease didn't figure that into the equation when they put a one-dimensional qb out there. Hindsight says that they were better off not putting Driskel out there because he couldn't run anymore. Our oline is not capable of pass protecting.
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    We have no choice. This oline is the worst oline in the Top 25. They can't pass protect and run block. That requires a QB capable of doing 2 things at the same time. Murphy has to run or he's dead meat.
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    I thought your opinion was that we didn't have a backup when Driskel was the starter... now this?
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    Murph doesn't appear to be as fast as JD and he's certainly not the load to bring down, but he's a more natural runner - better vision, better feet, good acceleration and so far he has run smart, taken what's there, and gotten down to avoid big hits.

    To AZ's point, I think we should let him run as long as keeps playing smart. QBs get hurt more often in the pocket anyway.
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    Has to scramble he looked very smart with his slide
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    I tend to agree with you but we will see what the staff decides. Hopefully the Line will play better now that everybody will be back besides Green
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    I liked it and I hope they dont coach it out of him. I am all for half field read it there is nothing there run. We dont need a QB to go through all there progressions especially with this Oline.

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