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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by MastaG8r, Jul 18, 2013.
Paste was never good either, but I guess it came with some music.
Rolling Stone is decent, but its more or less like The Rolling Stones, now. Old and living off past glory, even if still doing occasionally interesting stuff.
Basically, Pitchfork (and other websites) killed any usefulness a music magazine ever had.
as in, he seemed quite integrated into American culture, and somebody you would stereotypically suspect
Stirring sh*t up has become a full time career opportunity in this country. Plus, it's so easy to do.
I think PT Barnum said something to that effect in the 19th century.
Why are we but thirst over a picture now, but obl was on every cover with nary a peep of protest. It's the rolling stone, fighting for relevance, for goodness sake.
Should say butt hurt not but thirst, friggin autocorrect
Better than butt thirst, I suppose.
I agree. I haven't read the article, but it sounds like there are some salient points to be had. If the RS did glamorize him or portray him as some type of hero, then there outrage is warranted. Otherwise the outrage is typical knee jerk defense of some perceived slight.
No, it IS glorifying the bomber because of the way he is portrayed on the cover, in a "glamour shot" rock star pose. It doesn't matter what the title of the story is, or what it says in it. The image is inappropriate. There's nothing sexy about blowing people's legs off and murdering an 8 year-old boy.
You are missing the point.
The imagery is intentional. Attempting to show that glamour shot, rock star pose, sexy, integrated young men have the potential to be monsters.
If you just want to look at the cover and base your entire theory off the imagery, I suppose you have that right. There's an old saying that speaks to that misstep.
I have not read the article yet but the headline does not seem very condemning. To the contrary, it says, "How a Popular, Promising Student was Failed by his Family, Fell Into Radical Islam, and Became a Monster."
So he was "failed" by his family (Aww! Poor li'l Dzhokhar!) and then he "fell" (Oops! Clumsy li'l Dzhokhar!) into radical Islam. Looks like your Liberal friends at Rolling Stone magazine are trying to portray this known terrorist as something of a victim himself rather than what he is, an indefensible, unrepentant child murderer who created 267 real victims and has expressed no remorse for it.
Given your oft-stated distaste for "playing the victim card" I should think you would be abhorred by this. Or does it only bother you when Conservatives supposedly do it?
Meh, I honestly don't read RollingStone or any other magazines that aren't IT related, I was just going off of my perception of the mag. I didn't know they tackled politics that much and that its now un-cool to be on it. Learn something every day.
Well, you seem to be absolving his parents and radical Islam of their portion of responsibility, so why are you apologizing for those things?
I'm not missing their point, I'm dismissing their point. It doesn't matter what their point is. That guy is an anti-American terrorist who killed an eight year old kid and maimed over 200 other innocent people for life. There's no worthwhile point - about anything! - that is appropriately made by picturing someone like that on a magazine cover in a way that appears intended to make teenage girls swoon.
It's your supposition that the RS is trying to make teenage girls swoon.
It's my supposition that the RS is trying to tell teenage girls and every parent in American, "Hey, look out. That charismatic, engaged, good-looking, naturalized kid can turn into a monster. Let's think about how that happened to him and how we can try to avoid it next time." Also known as: A point.
Should have drawn a Hitler mustache on him. That would guarantee teengage girls dont swoon. But fascism and daddy issues might be closely related, so maybe not.
I'd think you'd need to read the story to see if 'failed by his family' is backed up. I didn't read a lot about the family, but wasn't it said that his brother led him into this? His mother came across as pretty awful, too, didn't she?
And like I said, calling him "a monster" seems like a pretty strong condemnation to me.
Spin is still a very, very good music magazine. I highly recommend it.