Rob Porter, Trump Aide, Resigns After Accusations of Abuse

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    you guys are so positive it happened- maybe it did and maybe it didn’t - why don’t we let the story play itself out
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    Hillary is a hypocrite. As an abuser she doesn't come come anywhere near the Donald and his buddies. Maybe Porter isn't guilty? His ex-wife would beg to differ.

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    a picture of a black eye does not mean it came from him- if he did it will come out- but until proven I will wait
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    Same people in here crying for due process are quick to call athletes rapists without giving them due process. Trump really exposes the hypocrisy of people.
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    She said it did. Who else gave her the black eye? There is not going to be a trial.

    Do you know what due process is? Do you even understand the issue? It means a right to notice and a fair opportunity to be heard?

    In this context, it means that if Porter was to get a security clearance and that clearance was denied because his exes accused him of beating the crap out of them-- women with bruises documented with their contemporaneous accusations-- that Trump give him a hearing.

    So, if Trump wanted to give him due process, why did Trump not have administrative hearings to address the question when Porter's security clearance was denied, instead of just burying the issue?

    When Trump spoke of due process, it was Trump who did not give Porter due process. Trump is the hypocrite because he did not give Porter, "due process."

    All his supporters do here is parrot whatever he says. Due Process.
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    There was an entire thread on Winston. He was accused, plays for FSU and, therefore, is guilty. Even though there was a "due process" hearing at FSU.

    People believe what they want, facts be damned. More likely, Porter was run off because everyone in the Trump administration believed the allegations.
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    Sadly, this is what it has come down to.
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    Facts and truth do not depend on political philosophy. It is a shame for the country (and sad for him) that John McCain is so ill.
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    And anyone who presented both sides of the case, explained why it had the outcome it did, and noted that there's a chance that Winston isn't guilty was personally attacked. Funny how that is.

    Oh and the due process hearing at FSU was presided over by a former Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court who had no connection to FSU.
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    If you need video evidence it will never happen. On the other hand, the black eye combined with the other allegations, from three different women should be more than sufficient evidence for a reasonable objective individual to draw the conclusion that Porter as a serial abuser.
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    As V8 notes, porter was accused by both of his ex wives and there is corrobrating evidence. Give him a hearing. Appoint an arbitrator.
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    "Until proven, I will wait . . ." unless it's the FBI or DOJ accused of some deed against Trump. Then, they're guilty until proven innocent. ;)
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    They cannot defend themselves. Cannot disclose the intel and facts that support their assessments in the texts. Same thing with the Nunes memo vs Dem memo. Easy targets.
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    Don't forget both gave statements to the FBI when interviewed. Those statements came with federal perjury charges if found to be untrue.
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    that picture is not a fresh shiner- it is atleast 5-7 days old- I would think if a man hit a woman she would immediately go get pics taken and have the guy arrested- again maybe he did it but just because she said it was him does not make it true- was there a pilice report? I just want more than her word he did it
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    Trump should have given him a hearing before Trump gave him access to classified info and then forced him out, right? Then the public would have more information? You would agree with that, right?

    Who else is supposed to give him "due process?"

    BTW: Porter admitted taking the pictures but did not deny hitting her.

    His hearing will not get past the answer stage.

    https://www.thecut.com/2018/02/rob-porter-photos-colbie-holderness.html



    Rob Porter has tried to temper the photo’s stark accusation: “I took the photos,” he wrote in a press release, “and the reality behind them is nowhere close to what is being described.” He does not deny he caused the injury, but instead claims artistic ownership of the image — “I took the photos” — suggesting that he holds a secret about them inaccessible to the general public. That he knows a deeper, private truth about that black eye, which would exculpate him if only he could share it with us.
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    all i am saying is just because she said he hit her does not make it true- if he did then someone needs to kick his ass- he did not have a high secrutiy clearance in his job

    you want to convict him without any proof he is guilty and I am willing to wait on the facts
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    Porter also resigned, so he made the choice to walk away (even if he was pushed to do so).
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    the truth for you libs is not really whether or not he hit his ex-wife it is all about the fact that trump hired him
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    Are you kidding? Of course we care about the fact he hit both of his exes. But, we would not even know about this guy if Trump did not hire him.

    The story that affects the country is that Trump kept Porter after Trump knew about the incidents and the denial of the security clearance; that Trump gave Porter a clearance anyway; that Trump covered it up and that Kelly lied about it at first. All facts.

    There is nothing that Trump can do that will draw criticism from you, is there? You either must think like Trump or that this is OK.

    It is not.

    This incident is another example of what a truly despicable person Trump is. It is not defensible.
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