Rev. Jesse Jackson says Paula Deen can be redeemed

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    He has such a loving way with words.
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    I'm a lib and say Jesse should shut up.

    Paula dean was raised in a racist era in a racist setting. And she acknowledges that. She also appears to have made attempt over her life to treat blacks better than how she was taught early in life to treat blacks. If she has indeed made strides over the years to treat blacks with respects and as equals then I see nothing to hate on her about.

    She was bent by her upbringing to hate blacks and discriminate against blacks. And changing from how she was raised is a lifelong process.

    'as the bough is bent, so grows the tree'. If she has done what she can to un'bend' from how she was raised I see her as a good person worthy of respect and understanding.

    My own grandfather was a child prior to WWI. He was raised a racist in the midwest. he honestly believed that instead of red that a black person's blood was black. He was not entirely thrilled when his daughter(my mom) married an Asian man. He did however accept my mom and dad as guests in his house and treated my dad with courtesy, etc. And over the years he and my dad got to be good friends. I am firmly convinced that my grandad started life as a racist but over the years changed. And to up to the day he died my dad was his closest friend and my brother, sister, and I his favorite grandchildren. And up until the day he died he periodically used a racist word or term, usually when he was speaking fast or under stress. At such times people tend to revert to words/terms of their youth. In his sixties a black acquaintance of his needed surgery and my grandad had same type blood and came to the hospital to provide a transfusion of his own blood to his black friend.
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    I can't say that I care what either one has to say. At all.
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    personally I find Jesse Jackson's attitude of being the authority chosen by God to judge people's racism to be ugly and wrong and arrogant. I see him as the lib/DEM equivalent to how Billy Graham is viewed by con/GOP. And that both men let it get to their heads.
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    oldgator - we finally agree on something.
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    to redeem paula, jesse and his foundation will want some money (lots of it)
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    "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.... After all we have been through. Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating."

    Jessie Jackson Remarks at a meeting of Operation PUSH in Chicago (27 November 1993). Quoted in "Crime: New Frontier - Jesse Jackson Calls It Top Civil-Rights Issue" by Mary A. Johnson, 29 November 1993, Chicago Sun-Times (ellipsis in original). Partially quoted in US News & World Report (10 March 1996)


    "Hymie Town"

    --Jessie Jackson circa 1984

    "Barack...he's talking down to black people...telling niggers how to behave."

    --Jessie Jackson circa 2008
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    "Barack...he's talking down to black people...telling niggers how to behave."

    --Jessie Jackson circa 2008"

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    that's main reason I can't stand Jesse Jackson.

    My perception(as well as many black people I talk with on the quote back in 2008)

    was that Obama was talking down to 'niggers' and trying to tell them not to behave as 'niggers' and to be socially responsible, law abiding black people who would have nothing to be ashamed of as a group. For black males to not go around knocking up as many black women as they can and leaving a trail of women trying to raise fatherless children.

    In the above regard I see Obama as being sabotaged by ultra libs and others like Jackson as well as ultra cons looking to block anything Obama.
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    If Paula Deen is to be treated so harshly for something she said 25 years ago, can Obama be punished for drug use 25 or so years ago?
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    Jesse Jackson gives his blessing, ok
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    Totally agree with the comments about Jackson, including his attitude, demeanor, and character.

    Totally disagree with your comparison to Billy Graham.

    One is the real deal, the other is not.
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    I never followed Billy Graham closely, but I don't recall ever hearing about him running an "I'll stop my attacks in exchange for contributions" shakedown operation. Jackson, OTOH, has made a career of doing exactly that. You can bet that Jackson's declaration that Paula Deen is "reclaimable" had a price tag attached.
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    Couldn't agree with you more. World of difference between the two. While in college I had the opportunity to have breakfast at his home (he wasn't home) but did know his wife, Ruth.
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    "Totally disagree with your comparison to Billy Graham.
    One is the real deal, the other is not"

    my comparison isn't so much a comparison of them as individuals., But rather, how a political base hangs on the person as the be all and end all of things religious, moral, etc

    ultra libs tend to hang onto Jackson/Sharpton as be all and end alls in regard to religion, race, morality, etc

    and republicans seem to tend to hang on to Graham as being the be all and end all in matters religious, race, morality, etc

    FWIW---I view Jackson and Sharpton to be 'not real' or worse--hypocrits. And tend to view Graham(and Graham family) pretty favorably as ones who aren't by party platform(ie--Graham family being at George Wallace funeral and praising Wallace's change from racist segregationist to becoming an advocate of integration). Sadly though, when a Graham does side with position contrary to conservatives the conservatives seem to disown Graham.
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    Well said
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    I had never heard of Paula Deen until recently, but just saw a clip of her interview on the Today show where she said, "I is what I is". For some reason it reminded me of the old Popeye cartoon, " I am what I am, I'm Popeye the Sailor Man" or something close.

    She needs a new PR person, totally embarrassing performance. Another person that needs to just take all her money and go away.
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    Jesse the man who had affairs.

    Jesse the shakedown artist.

    Jesse the liar.

    Jesse who calls Jews racist names.

    Jesse needs to move to Detroit and open a Muslim BBQ restaurant
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