Republicans Don't Really Care About The Deficit

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    Actually it appears he's simply admitting that Democrats also don't care about the deficit.

    Hmm ... I'm sensing a theme here ...
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    BTW .... if we could get the folks on the left to "embrace the idea" of a simplified, more equitable federal income tax system .... this type of legislation would be no more.
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    I think the most important information in the link follows:

    "The conservative Club for Growth objects to tax extenders in general but did not issue a statement on Friday's vote, because the organization sees it as maneuvering in a predictable battle with the Senate."

    "The whole process is silly and everyone knows how it's going to end," said Club for Growth's Barney Keller to CNN. The spokesman thinks the House and Senate will combine their bills and pass some form of tax extenders later this year. "It's ridiculous."

    Maybe it is a little premature to pass judgement at this point but glad to see there are some liberal budget hawks on THFSG.
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    Frankly I think all of Congress pretty much cares only about as much as it will take to get them reelected. If I didn't think it'd cause a huge vacuum in power, I'd love to see them all voted out at once and then have people elect folks from different fields to give their expertise, and especially make sure not a single career politician gets put into power.

    Would never happen, but every last one of them needs to go.
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    Just as (D)'s don't give a chit about the poor and middle class aside from it's electoral rhetorical value. Case in point:

    http://chronicle.com/article/Larry-Summersthe/124790/

    Or, for that matter, women.

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    P.S. The CNN article incorrectly referred to the bill as HR 4178 - it is HR 4718 and 34 democrats voted for it:

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/113-2014/h404
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    Not the only thing CNN got wrong in that article. The entire premise was false, the narrative was false, and the conclusions were false.

    Sort of the triple crown if you will.
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    Yes .... much like the MSM (lousy cretins) intentionally mis-reporting of the 2008 TVPRA - aka WILLIAM WILBERFORCE TRAFFICKING VICTIMS PROTECTION REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2008 - as the basis for the obama administration not deporting the CentAm invaders. s
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    Only to liberals is a cut in revenue an increase in spending and a smaller INCREASE to a budget over the previous year a budget CUT.
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    One thought on the idiotic SCOTUS. If as they say a corporation is a person than,,???? where in the hell is our ability to have the exact same tax loopholes, etc. as the robber barons..Or better yet let them eat cake and play by OUR RULES. Seems like a match made in heaven...Either SCOTUS is correct or looney as hell. Go figure
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    Keep them and we will have Zimbabwe soon enough, or Argentina. Democrats want to increase taxes but not take it from the deficit. Not one democrat in the past 14 years has once put forth any bill to cut the deficit and debt. Not one. But it doesn't take them 5 seconds to want to increase the debt ceiling. In fact, there is a push to remove the debt ceiling limit altogether. Yet, there is a fantastic article from Simon Black that explains why the US has enjoyed being the forefront to the global economy but that is starting crumble. He explains since the US over the past 3 years has instituted draconian laws forcing other nations to comply or face steep fines or getting kicked out of the club, nations around the world are starting to create their own club and the US isn't invited. As countries start doing business outside of New York, the value of the dollar will plummet and the interest on our debt will easily be more than SS, Medicare, and ACA. At that point, the US will have no choice but do away with one of those programs or cut each by 30%. China is set to kick the US off the pedestal in November as the world's largest economy.
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    Thank American big business for moving hundreds of billions in investments, job creations, and outright treasonous activity to pull China to the top of the heap, and they deserve tax credits? Not until the money comes home. This liberal has always said Pat Buchanan was right on this one.
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    I don't think anyone said it's an increase in spending, they said it increased the deficit. And it absolutely does.

    To use the household budget analogy that conservatives seem to love: if your household is spending more than it earns, going to your boss and telling him you want a pay cut is going to make that problem worse.
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    better to have argentina than somalia. and yeah, perhaps they're correct regarding the debt ceiling. if it's done away with. we won't have idiots refusing to raise it, thereby (again) damaging our reputation, which would (again) result in having our credit rating downgraded, which results in higher interest rates. and since we don't see an end in sight to having to deal with those particular morons who are responsible for that initial downgrading...well, you can see why it might be beneficial to remove it.

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    Only one more thread that continues to prove that liberals have little if any knowledge of economics/accounting/tax law and are only capable of quoting Vanity Fair (or similar) articles that support their faulty logic.

    "Robber Barons"! My gawd did a poster actual use the term "Robber baron"?
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    'my gawd'!!! i suppose someone did use that term. so, what part about it are you confused about?

    Robber baron (industrialist)
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In social criticism and economic literature, robber baron became a derogatory term applied to wealthy and powerful 19th-century American businessmen that appeared in North American periodical literature as early as the August 1870 issue of The Atlantic Monthly[1] magazine. By the late 1800s, the term was typically applied to businessmen who used what were considered to be exploitative practices to amass their wealth.[2] These practices included exerting control over national resources, accruing high levels of government influence, paying extremely low wages, squashing competition by acquiring competitors in order to create monopolies and eventually raise prices, and schemes to sell stock at inflated prices[2] to unsuspecting investors in a manner which would eventually destroy the company for which the stock was issued and impoverish investors.[2] The term combines the sense of criminal ("robber") and illegitimate aristocracy (a baron is an illegitimate role in a republic).[3]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist)

    it's pretty damn near 'spot on', actually
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    also, 'liberals have no knowledge of economics'?
    yeah. that's why when your guys have the exec branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch, they do a such a bang up job on the economy.
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    LOL .... I guess the lefties now realize and have agreed that this is not a tax cut but rather the continuation of existing tax law as previously SIGNED by their guy barry soetoro. What a mess is the left.
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    I don't know about that but I bet there is a "but Bush" reply coming.
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