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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by fastsix, Mar 19, 2014.
Science has a long way to go. It hasn't even proven science yet.
Actually, not doing that at all. Not even close.
You believe in a higher power, more power to you.
Sure it is, it's done here all the time with evolution. Why do you think regressives cling to it like their life depends upon it.
Question, where's the empirical proof of a higher power in the form of a Christian god that isn't tautological?
I will answer your question with a question: Where is the empirical proof that god does not exist? Uh huh, thought so
Not my job to prove some god exists. I would think it's the job of those who claim there is a god to prove it. Within the confines of religion, such as Catholicism, that is unnecessary as faith drives the belief. Outside of religion such claims need empirical proof.
FTR, I never claimed a god (or gods) doesn't exist, only that I haven't seen independent evidence that isn't tautological.
God and evolution are not mutually exclusive.
It absolutely is if you're going to deny his existence. The majority of mankind believes in his existence. Do you think the collection of writings that were put together to form the bible came out of thin air?
It's not the Christian's job to prove that God exists.
The politicizing of science v religion has always been very unfortunate.
Science requires lots of faith. No scientist worth his/her salt would deny it.
That's right their not, however it's often used to explain the absence of a god. If you were being honest you would admit that because that is something every person on this board fully understands. If you or anyone denied that fact I would say you're being dishonest.
This is the basis for the unfortunate politicizing of which I speak. It goes like this:
- some people have used evolution in attempts to disprove the existence of God
- therefore evolution is antithetical to religion
There's a leap in logic here and it unfairly pits the two against each other.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I point this out as the dishonesty I was referring too.
The majority of the world once thought the world was flat too. Have to be careful about how we use such majoritarian arguments though.
I am not denying anything though...nor am I confirming anything either, just a neutral, a touch ambivalent, somewhat perpetual state of uncertainty. If I saw proof, then I'd reconsider.
The best thing Bible-believers can do is to stop paying lip service to context and start honoring it. As it stands they are providing ammunition to evolutiondiditists who are merely parasitical and derivative in that they are Biblical literalists as well/
That would make you decidedly more credulous than were the ancient Hebrews. They witnessed proof after proof and NEVER believed.
Well except we have writings that go back 3500 years. Pesky little details
Yes, I'm dishonest. Jesus Christ ....